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From: Jakub Narebski <jnareb@gmail.com>
To: Brandon Casey <casey@nrlssc.navy.mil>
Cc: Arne Babenhauserheide <arne_bab@web.de>,
	mercurial@selenic.com, SLONIK.AZ@gmail.com, git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [VOTE] git versus mercurial (for DragonflyBSD)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 21:37:05 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200810272137.07309.jnareb@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b6jwksWkldU6N726dbI3k3yYE6WL1aXJERb9Oh1lNd8g5zdTavgRew@cipher.nrlssc.navy.mil>

On Mon, 27 Oct 2008, Brandon Casey wrote:
> Jakub Narebski wrote:
> > On Mon, 27 Oct 2008, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote:
> > >
> > > Also, looking at git, git users still have to garbage collect regularly, which 
> > > shows to me that the design wasn't really cleaner. 
> > 
> > Well, they have to a lot less than they used to, and there is 
> > "git gc --auto" that can be put in crontab safely.
> 
> I think you missed the most convincing argument _for_ explicit garbage collection.
> 
> By allowing explicit repository packing, git allows you to delay a cpu intensive
> operation til later, when time doesn't matter, like at the end of the day right
> before I go home. It also allows more cpu intensive delta/compression algorithms
> to be used.
> 
> By contrast, mercurial performs deltafication and compression on each commit.
> So, acceptable commit speed must be weighed against the complexity of the
> deltafication/compression algorithm and file format.

On the one hand one can use different compression for loose (immediate)
and packed (in a free time) objects.

On the other access from "smart" client (git://, ssh://, future "smart"
HTTP server) results in creating a pack, so we cannot allow for too
tight pack compression, or to be more exact too much CPU load taken.

The ability to vary 'quality' of pack compression is very useful to
distinguish between very loosely packed fast-import pack, and tightly
repacked in free time.

-- 
Jakub Narebski
Poland

  reply	other threads:[~2008-10-27 20:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-10-26  4:28 [VOTE] git versus mercurial walt
2008-10-26 14:15 ` [VOTE] git versus mercurial (for DragonflyBSD) Jakub Narebski
2008-10-26 14:30   ` Maxim Vuets
2008-10-26 15:05     ` Leo Razoumov
2008-10-26 18:55       ` Jakub Narebski
2008-10-27  0:20         ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2008-10-27  4:15           ` Leo Razoumov
2008-10-27  7:16             ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2008-10-27  7:16             ` dhruva
2008-10-27  0:47         ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2008-10-27  1:52           ` Jakub Narebski
2008-10-27  7:50             ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2008-10-27  9:41               ` Jakub Narebski
2008-10-27 10:12                 ` Leslie P. Polzer
2008-10-27 10:14                 ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2008-10-27 12:48                   ` Jakub Narebski
     [not found]                     ` <200810271512.26352.arne_bab@web.de>
2008-10-27 18:01                       ` Jakub Narebski
2008-10-27 20:48                         ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2008-10-27 21:07                           ` Miklos Vajna
2008-10-27 21:30                             ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2008-10-28  0:13                               ` Miklos Vajna
2008-10-28 17:48                               ` Andreas Ericsson
2008-10-28 19:11                                 ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2008-10-28 19:38                                   ` SZEDER Gábor
2008-11-06 16:25                                     ` Marcin Kasperski
2008-11-06 17:41                                       ` Isaac Jurado
2008-10-28 19:16                                 ` Randal L. Schwartz
2008-10-27 23:25                           ` Jakub Narebski
2008-10-27  9:29             ` Benoit Boissinot
2008-10-27 10:57               ` Jakub Narebski
2008-10-27 14:29                 ` 0000 vk
2008-10-27 14:57                   ` Jakub Narebski
     [not found]             ` <1225100597.31813.11.camel@abelardo.lan>
2008-10-27 11:42               ` David Soria Parra
2008-10-27 20:07             ` Brandon Casey
2008-10-27 20:37               ` Jakub Narebski [this message]
2008-10-28  1:28                 ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-10-26 15:57   ` Felipe Contreras
2008-10-26 19:07     ` Jakub Narebski
2008-10-26 19:54       ` Felipe Contreras
2008-10-28 12:31 ` [VOTE] git versus mercurial walt
2008-10-28 14:28   ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-10-28 14:41     ` Git/Mercurial interoperability (and what about bzr?) (was: Re: [VOTE] git versus mercurial) Peter Krefting
2008-10-28 14:59       ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-10-28 15:02         ` Git/Mercurial interoperability (and what about bzr?) Matthieu Moy
2008-10-28 15:03       ` Git/Mercurial interoperability (and what about bzr?) (was: Re: [VOTE] git versus mercurial) Nicolas Pitre
2008-10-28 15:33       ` Pieter de Bie
2008-10-28 19:12         ` Miklos Vajna
2008-10-28 21:10           ` Miklos Vajna
2008-10-28 21:31           ` Theodore Tso
2008-10-28 23:28             ` Miklos Vajna
2008-11-01  8:06             ` Git/Mercurial interoperability (and what about bzr?) Florian Weimer
2008-11-01 10:03               ` Santi Béjar
2008-11-01 10:33               ` Jakub Narebski
2008-11-01 10:44                 ` Florian Weimer
2008-11-01 11:10                   ` Florian Weimer
2008-11-01 12:26                   ` Jakub Narebski
2008-11-01 13:39                   ` Theodore Tso
2008-11-01 17:51                     ` Linus Torvalds
2008-11-02  1:13                       ` Theodore Tso
2008-11-01 10:16         ` Git/Mercurial interoperability (and what about bzr?) (was: Re: [VOTE] git versus mercurial) Peter Krefting
2008-10-29 19:11     ` [VOTE] git versus mercurial Shawn O. Pearce
2008-10-29 19:36       ` Boyd Lynn Gerber
2008-10-29 19:48         ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-10-29 19:51           ` Boyd Lynn Gerber
2008-10-29  8:15   ` Miles Bader

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