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From: Pierre Habouzit <madcoder@debian.org>
To: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] git send-email: allow any rev-list option as an  argument.
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 10:15:13 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081103091513.GC13930@artemis.corp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081102180220.GA5726@sigio.intra.peff.net>

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On Sun, Nov 02, 2008 at 06:02:21PM +0000, Jeff King wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 02, 2008 at 10:39:07AM +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> 
> > Well it still messes the file/reference name conflict with no way to
> > prevent it because of the backward compatibility, and even if unlikely
> > it's still possible.
> 
> Hmm. As Junio mentioned, this is really an easier way of doing:
> 
>   git format-patch -o tmp "$@"
>   $EDITOR tmp/*
>   git send-email tmp
> 
> So I guess a wrapper program would suffice, that just called send-email.
> But of course then you would have to think of a new name, and explain
> the confusion between it and send-email.

Well that defeats the purpose of fixing send-email to me. I really would
like to see this fixed properly like it should. I mean it makes sense to
me to use _three_ commands where one should be enough. Not to mention
that introducing a new command is just completely against the spirit of
*simplifying* the current UI ;)

Actually I see a few possibilities.

(1) The first one is to pass a --[no]-format-patch flag to
    git-send-email which says that it should understand arguments as
    format-patch arguments.  You add to that a sendemail.format-patch
    setting that would default to false for backward compatibility sake,
    that would allow the user to force --format-patch as a default.

    This would e.g. cleanly allow:  git send-email --format-patch -3 HEAD.

    I would understand if people dislike the setting: it basically
    modifies the behaviour of a git command a lot, which has been
    frowned upon in the past. Even though I would argue than using
    git-send-email in scripting is quite bad, for something that you can
    probably replace with:

    while read patchname; do mail some@where.org < $patchname; done < git format-patch "$@"

    But if people think it's too dangerous, replacing it with a short
    switch so that it's not too painful to use would fly for me,
    something like -F or whatever.


(2) Another way is to add a --pass-to-format-patch kind of option that
    would take its arguments and pass it to git-format-patch. Like in:
    git send-email --pass-to-format-patch "-3 HEAD". (Of course a short
    switch would help ;p).

(3) Use -- for mandatory separating <format-patch> arguments like this:

	git send-email [send-email options] -- -3 HEAD

    or if you want to send patches that would modify only a given path:

        git send-email [s-e options] -- origin/next.. -- git-gui

    that would run internally:

        git format-patch origin/next.. -- git-gui


I would say that I dislike (2) a LOT because it's a pain to use: needs a
lot of quoting, and it gets worse if you want to pass things with spaces
in it to format-patch.

(2) has the small drawback of not being 100% backward compatible: with
the current use of perl Getoptions, -- is used to stop options
processing, and people _may_ have used it to do `git s-e -- --my.patch`
and such a use would break. However this is highly unlikely to cause
issues in real life I think (unlike the problem of refs against filename
clashes).

In (1) people may dislike the idea of a setting, I've not strong
feelings about it, I won't mind if it gets rejected, a short switch will
do just fine then.


As a summary, I'd say that I like both (1) and (3) because those are
handy, short, and either completely or mostly backward compatible. My
way would be to go down (1) and add a alias.s-e = !git send-email -F in
my .gitconfig.

What do you think ?

-- 
·O·  Pierre Habouzit
··O                                                madcoder@debian.org
OOO                                                http://www.madism.org

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  reply	other threads:[~2008-11-03  9:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-10-31 10:57 git send-email improvements Pierre Habouzit
2008-10-31 10:57 ` [PATCH 1/3] git send-email: avoid leaking directory file descriptors Pierre Habouzit
2008-10-31 10:57   ` [PATCH 2/3] git send-email: interpret unknown files as revision lists Pierre Habouzit
2008-10-31 10:57     ` [PATCH 3/3] git send-email: add --annotate option Pierre Habouzit
2008-10-31 21:34       ` Ian Hilt
2008-11-02  6:23       ` Junio C Hamano
2008-11-02  9:51         ` Pierre Habouzit
2008-11-03 12:18           ` Matthieu Moy
2008-10-31 16:52     ` [PATCH] git send-email: allow any rev-list option as an argument Pierre Habouzit
2008-11-02  4:35       ` Jeff King
2008-11-02  9:39         ` Pierre Habouzit
2008-11-02 18:02           ` Jeff King
2008-11-03  9:15             ` Pierre Habouzit [this message]
2008-11-04  1:04               ` Junio C Hamano
2008-11-04  8:19                 ` Pierre Habouzit
2008-11-02  4:31   ` [PATCH 1/3] git send-email: avoid leaking directory file descriptors Jeff King
2008-10-31 12:36 ` Further enhancement proposal for git-send-email Pierre Habouzit
2008-10-31 12:36   ` [PATCH 1/3] git send-email: make the message file name more specific Pierre Habouzit
2008-10-31 12:36     ` [PATCH 2/3] git send-email: do not ask questions when --compose is used Pierre Habouzit
2008-10-31 12:36       ` [PATCH 3/3] git send-email: turn --compose on when more than one patch Pierre Habouzit
2008-10-31 21:33       ` [PATCH 2/3] git send-email: do not ask questions when --compose is used Ian Hilt
2008-10-31 21:38         ` Pierre Habouzit
2008-10-31 22:01           ` Ian Hilt
2008-11-01  2:26     ` Ian Hilt
2008-11-01 11:04       ` Pierre Habouzit
2008-11-01 13:00         ` Ian Hilt
2008-11-01 17:08           ` Pierre Habouzit
2008-11-01 17:34             ` Francis Galiegue
2008-11-01 17:43               ` Pierre Habouzit
2008-11-01 19:56                 ` Francis Galiegue
2008-11-01 17:54             ` Ian Hilt
2008-11-02  6:18     ` [PATCH 1/3] git send-email: make the message file name more specific Junio C Hamano
2008-11-02  9:35       ` Pierre Habouzit
2008-11-02 21:34         ` Ian Hilt
2008-11-03  8:53           ` Pierre Habouzit
2008-11-04 16:24 ` [take 2] git send-email updates Pierre Habouzit
2008-11-04 16:24   ` [PATCH 1/5] git send-email: make the message file name more specific Pierre Habouzit
2008-11-04 16:24     ` [PATCH 2/5] git send-email: interpret unknown files as revision lists Pierre Habouzit
2008-11-04 16:24       ` [PATCH 3/5] git send-email: add --annotate option Pierre Habouzit
2008-11-04 16:24         ` [PATCH 4/5] git send-email: ask less questions when --compose is used Pierre Habouzit
2008-11-04 16:24           ` [PATCH 5/5] git send-email: turn --compose on when more than one patch Pierre Habouzit
2008-11-04 23:54             ` Junio C Hamano
2008-11-05  3:31               ` Jeff King
2008-11-05  7:03                 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-11-05 10:40                   ` [PATCH 2/5] git send-email: interpret unknown files as revision lists Pierre Habouzit
2008-11-05 15:17                     ` Junio C Hamano
2008-11-09 18:56                     ` Junio C Hamano
2008-11-04 20:09           ` [PATCH 4/5] git send-email: ask less questions when --compose is used Francis Galiegue
2008-11-04 23:54           ` Junio C Hamano
2008-11-04 23:54       ` [PATCH 2/5] git send-email: interpret unknown files as revision lists Junio C Hamano
2008-11-10 23:53 ` [take 2] git send-email updates Pierre Habouzit
2008-11-10 23:53   ` [PATCH 1/4] git send-email: make the message file name more specific Pierre Habouzit
2008-11-10 23:54     ` [PATCH 2/4] git send-email: interpret unknown files as revision lists Pierre Habouzit
2008-11-10 23:54       ` [PATCH 3/4] git send-email: add --annotate option Pierre Habouzit
2008-11-10 23:54         ` [PATCH 4/4] git send-email: ask less questions when --compose is used Pierre Habouzit
2008-11-12  5:48       ` [PATCH 2/4] git send-email: interpret unknown files as revision lists Junio C Hamano
2008-11-11 20:30   ` [take 2] git send-email updates Junio C Hamano
2008-11-11 22:13     ` Pierre Habouzit
2008-11-12  0:14       ` Junio C Hamano
2008-11-13  0:01         ` Re* " Junio C Hamano
2008-11-15 22:07           ` Pierre Habouzit
2008-11-15 22:05         ` Pierre Habouzit

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