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From: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/6 (v2)] upload-pack: send the HEAD information
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 21:36:43 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081202023643.GA6804@coredump.intra.peff.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7v1vwrqpvf.fsf@gitster.siamese.dyndns.org>

On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 06:20:52PM -0800, Junio C Hamano wrote:

> I think sending 0{40} would break older clients, but older clients cannot
> clone from an empty repository anyway, so that should not be so bad.  I
> however do not think it is such a big thing to be able to clone void
> anyway.
> 
> You just have to train yourself to announce that your repository is
> clonable _after_ making it actually clonable.

I disagree. 99% of the time we see people complain about this, it is not
"I tried to announce my repo to people but it didn't have any commits"
but rather "why must I hack, init remote, then push, instead of init
remote, hack, push"[1].

That is, some segment of people (myself included) want to say first "I'm
starting a new project, and so I'm going to create a spot for it on my
server". Of course we can train ourselves to do it in the other order,
but it is an unnecessary complication.

-Peff

[1] Actually, it is more than just arbitrary preference. It is less
typing to do:

    ssh remote 'mkdir foo && cd foo && git init --bare'
    git clone remote:foo
    hack hack hack; commit
    git push

than

    git init
    hack hack hack; commit
    ssh remote 'mkdir foo && cd foo && git init --bare'
    git push
    git remote add -m refs/heads/master origin remote:foo

  reply	other threads:[~2008-12-02  2:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-12-01 14:12 [PATCH 0/6 (v2)] Detecting HEAD more reliably while cloning Junio C Hamano
2008-12-01 14:12 ` [PATCH 1/6 (v2)] get_remote_heads(): refactor code to read "server capabilities" Junio C Hamano
2008-12-01 14:12   ` [PATCH 2/6 (v2)] connect.c::read_extra_info(): prepare to receive more than server capabilities Junio C Hamano
2008-12-01 14:12     ` [PATCH 3/6 (v2)] connect.c::read_extra_info(): find where HEAD points at Junio C Hamano
2008-12-01 14:12       ` [PATCH 4/6 (v2)] clone: find the current branch more explicitly Junio C Hamano
2008-12-01 14:12         ` [PATCH 5/6 (v2)] upload-pack: send the HEAD information Junio C Hamano
2008-12-01 14:12           ` [PATCH 6/6 (v2)] clone: test the new HEAD detection logic Junio C Hamano
2008-12-01 15:40           ` [PATCH 5/6 (v2)] upload-pack: send the HEAD information Jakub Narebski
2008-12-01 16:20           ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-12-01 19:54             ` Junio C Hamano
2008-12-01 17:44           ` Jeff King
2008-12-02  1:31             ` Junio C Hamano
2008-12-02  1:59               ` Jeff King
2008-12-02  2:20                 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-12-02  2:36                   ` Jeff King [this message]
2008-12-01 15:52 ` [PATCH 0/6 (v2)] Detecting HEAD more reliably while cloning Johannes Sixt
2008-12-02  1:33   ` Junio C Hamano

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