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From: Sam Ravnborg <sam@ravnborg.org>
To: Alexey Zaytsev <alexey.zaytsev@gmail.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
	Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>,
	git@vger.kernel.org,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: current git kernel has strange problems during bisect
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 23:32:15 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090111223215.GA6296@uranus.ravnborg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f19298770901111417t6762e1e3x79b2f488ee6f1243@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 01:17:31AM +0300, Alexey Zaytsev wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 23:04, Linus Torvalds
> <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Sun, 11 Jan 2009, Sam Ravnborg wrote:
> >>
> >> The cost of moving this piece of history from one git tree to another
> >> git tree is that we make it harder to debug the kernel for the advanced user
> >> that knows how to do bisect.
> >>
> >> It is not like this history would be lost - one just had to look
> >> somewhere else to find it.
> >>
> >> That may be a bad pain/benefit ratio - time will tell.
> >
> > Umm. No.
> >
> > Time is exactly what makes it useful. It will make all the downsides
> > shrink, and the advantages stay.
> >
> >> There should be a way to avoid such pain when bisecting without
> >> having to mark a semi-random (for the average person) commit as good.
> >
> > Well, you don't actually have to mark that semi-random one as good either.
> > What you can do is to just mark anything that _only_ contains fs/btrfs as
> > good. IOW, you don't have to know the magic number - you just have to be
> > told that "oh, if you only have btrfs files, and you're not actively
> > bisecting a btrfs bug, just do 'git bisect good' and continue".
> >
> > Yeah, you'll hit it a few times, but you don't even have to compile things
> > or boot anything, so it's not actually going to be all that much slower
> > than just knowing about the magic point either.
> 
> But would not such bug avoid being bisected if you blindly
> mark btrfs commits as good?
> 
> v2.6.29 <-- bad
> ...
> ...
> ...
> btrfs stuff <-- mark as good
> ...
> the-real-bug
> ...
> v2.6.28 <-- good
> 
> So you hit the btrfs commit, mark it as good, leaving the real bug below,
> and the bisection continues, with both sides being actually bad.
> 
> Am I missing something?

Yep - you miss that people get confused when suddenly they have no kernel source.

	Sam

  reply	other threads:[~2009-01-11 22:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-01-11 15:02 current git kernel has strange problems during bisect Christian Borntraeger
2009-01-11 15:07 ` Christian Borntraeger
2009-01-11 15:14   ` Johannes Schindelin
2009-01-11 15:20     ` Christian Borntraeger
2009-01-11 16:31       ` Boaz Harrosh
2009-01-11 19:13       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-11 19:42         ` Sam Ravnborg
2009-01-11 19:47           ` Alexey Zaytsev
2009-01-11 23:02             ` Pierre Habouzit
2009-01-12  4:51               ` Christian Couder
2009-01-12  5:03                 ` Christian Couder
2009-01-11 20:04           ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-11 21:39             ` Christian Borntraeger
2009-01-11 22:27               ` Daniel Barkalow
2009-01-13 20:26               ` Kyle Moffett
2009-01-15 16:54                 ` Andreas Bombe
2009-01-15 23:13                   ` Kyle Moffett
2009-01-11 21:54             ` Sam Ravnborg
2009-01-11 22:17             ` Alexey Zaytsev
2009-01-11 22:32               ` Sam Ravnborg [this message]
2009-01-11 22:34               ` Daniel Barkalow
2009-01-11 20:29         ` Andi Kleen
2009-01-11 20:51           ` Johannes Schindelin

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