From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "H.Merijn Brand" Subject: Re: Oldest supported Perl version Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 23:10:35 +0200 Message-ID: <20090420231035.683a7e0f@pc09.procura.nl> References: <76718490904200759l24e1bd9exe0e1b60f7b2847a7@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Jay Soffian , Junio C Hamano , Michael Witten , git To: Jakub Narebski X-From: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Mon Apr 20 23:12:16 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcvg-git-2@gmane.org Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.132.176.167]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Lw0mk-0007Gf-Gx for gcvg-git-2@gmane.org; Mon, 20 Apr 2009 23:12:15 +0200 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1756084AbZDTVKk (ORCPT ); Mon, 20 Apr 2009 17:10:40 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1755807AbZDTVKk (ORCPT ); Mon, 20 Apr 2009 17:10:40 -0400 Received: from smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl ([194.109.24.30]:2718 "EHLO smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752219AbZDTVKj (ORCPT ); Mon, 20 Apr 2009 17:10:39 -0400 Received: from pc09.procura.nl (procura.xs4all.nl [82.95.216.29]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n3KLAZ62024038 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 20 Apr 2009 23:10:35 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from h.m.brand@xs4all.nl) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.1cvs44 (GTK+ 2.14.4; x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwEAIAAACI8LKTAAAACXBIWXMAAABIAAAASABGyWs+AAAC JElEQVRo3u2aMY4CMQxFczZ6RItEzRm4DBINDbRUSPRInIRbsNK6+dJfezN4kokn48IaCSjysL8d e9Knoj2fr9f9/gllqQ6U9/vxWK3EdwdIEGjRIVCu18NhuxUfK46SH81+fzrdbuKPx/P5ctHQdAdI TKAgpvV6s9ntBEfXEYSGgMQzIHnuFBBjkshCNJ2KtJZ04hHNAugP8bZr3NIHhbcF0AKoK0CoaHXU LUWBIs1n+jV+Fl8CVqOApEXAwyMO/DSR4XVntoAYDR7eBjQupuYAYTMph8Rj21D4m7MChN02tpqs NSnb/KqU2oHCXu5xDCgflj/RAgBiKBIXnICzAsSjWBsTz5K4/HeXYvb8yK5lY3VGEwPi2aONKT+5 AlcxrTPOwcTiraGRChgMEKJh0bVVifGVTq6qgBiNVl8QE29EsK6VE+YJAOG2wz5AvsqUS6uqgHCA n4NGvBYpnJ64Jgg27sCtxtBk1CJIA4S/GhdWKh07QxUB48jWGhZ4jKamRRr/T8/M0AaEyctry6YB 4dTGj9iWZNs3DahES5kPCJOu0RQbF/fQOBprsB9gaO9JtPDzII9U5ySXX7AnuIt91y54AAW7rPpT LCe5gt3F+CLqr2UarGB3MXvMylWGq4+9RCx3TW1oJq1t3HPQlFs6N1fFNEB4s8dn7Ne7ACSm7TPQ I5quAWmw6qBpulHM33B0Csge4Nd8JTTYG2b1XyRe3lH8x34ABJ6aePuQ2N4AAAAASUVORK5CYII= X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Archived-At: On Mon, 20 Apr 2009 10:59:14 -0700 (PDT), Jakub Narebski wrote: > Jay Soffian writes: > > > On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 9:58 PM, Junio C Hamano wrote: > > > > > > Now the real question was if we still support anything older, and if so > > > what is the bottom version? > > > > > > I certainly can go with "5.8.1 or later", but I vaguely recall during the > > > gitweb discussion we said anything without the utf-8 support is unusable > > > for gitweb, but I think we also said that the rest of the git codebase > > > should support running with something older (5.6.1, perhaps). > > > So here's my take-away. For the *.perl scripts and gitweb, it's > > 5.8.0. For the test suite and Git.pm, all Perl versions are > > theoretically supported, but for practical purposes, it may be > > 5.6.0. > > Errr... no. For gitweb we require good Unicode support, which means > Perl 5.8.x (IIRC 5.8.1). For all other: commands (and helpers) Unicode? 5.8.4 or up. Most desirable 5.8.5 5.8.1 is the worst distribution ever. ask purl on irc : purl, perl-5.8.1? i guess perl-5.8.1 is made from blood, sweat, tears, coffee and single malt > written in Perl like git-svn, fragments of Perl in test suite (because > of incompatibility and corner cases of shell scripting) - with possible > exception of testing gitweb, and Git.pm (which some commands in Perl > use) I think it is reasonable to expect 5.6.0 at least. 5.6.1 or 5.8.5 > > Whatever is decided this time, perhaps it should be burned into the tops of > > the *.perl scripts (i.e. "require 5.008;"). It should also be added to > > CodingGuidelines. You know, so this conversation doesn't keep recurring. :-) -- H.Merijn Brand http://tux.nl Perl Monger http://amsterdam.pm.org/ using & porting perl 5.6.2, 5.8.x, 5.10.x, 5.11.x on HP-UX 10.20, 11.00, 11.11, 11.23, and 11.31, OpenSuSE 10.3, 11.0, and 11.1, AIX 5.2 and 5.3. http://mirrors.develooper.com/hpux/ http://www.test-smoke.org/ http://qa.perl.org http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/stupid-disclaimers/