From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Francis Galiegue Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] To make GIT-VERSION-FILE, search for git more widely Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 19:10:46 +0200 Organization: One2team Message-ID: <200905091910.46775.fge@one2team.com> References: <1241688129-31613-1-git-send-email-matthias.andree@gmx.de> <7vskje6wsy.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Cc: "Matthias Andree" , git@vger.kernel.org To: Junio C Hamano X-From: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Sat May 09 19:10:34 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcvg-git-2@gmane.org Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.132.176.167]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1M2q4G-0007j5-Te for gcvg-git-2@gmane.org; Sat, 09 May 2009 19:10:33 +0200 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752341AbZEIRKX convert rfc822-to-quoted-printable (ORCPT ); Sat, 9 May 2009 13:10:23 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1752169AbZEIRKX (ORCPT ); Sat, 9 May 2009 13:10:23 -0400 Received: from ns35774.ovh.net ([213.251.185.197]:43461 "EHLO ns35774.ovh.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752083AbZEIRKW convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Sat, 9 May 2009 13:10:22 -0400 Received: from smtp.olympe.o2t (138.193.65-86.rev.gaoland.net [86.65.193.138]) by ns35774.ovh.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C719492C021; Sat, 9 May 2009 19:10:12 +0200 (CEST) Received: from erwin.kitchen.eel (unknown [10.8.0.6]) by smtp.olympe.o2t (Postfix) with ESMTP id E434B2F2C5; Sat, 9 May 2009 19:10:21 +0200 (CEST) User-Agent: KMail/1.9.9 In-Reply-To: <7vskje6wsy.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org> Content-Disposition: inline Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Archived-At: Le Saturday 09 May 2009 18:55:09 Junio C Hamano, vous avez =E9crit=A0: [...] > > What's innovative is whoever is running build as root. > Well, maybe not if you just download the source and use=20 the "configure/make/make install" trinity. But when it comes to packagi= ng,=20 it's another story. I've been doing RPM packaging for quite a few years. I have been fortun= ate=20 enough that my first job was with a Linux distribution (it was called=20 Mandrake at the time) and, first things first, they taught me how to se= t up=20 an RPM environment to build as a regular user. Believe it or not, but even as of today, in 2009, neither RHEL or its=20 immediate derivative (CentOS) manage to build a decent set of rules to = build=20 as a non-root user. You have to make your own $HOME/.rpmmacros at the v= ery=20 least. So, unless you are a skilled enough packager, you cannot even bu= ild a=20 package as a regular user. And some packages out there DO require skill= s as a=20 packager to just be built as packages (qmail is one example). And even as a regular user, and even though you can, say, alter all=20 of /usr/local to be writeable by someone else than root, I wouldn't be=20 surprised to hear that a LOT of Linux beginners, seeing that "make inst= all=20 doesn't work", resort to being root instead. Because it is a known fact= that=20 root can do everything. Innovative? Not that much. --=20 =46rancis Galiegue fge@one2team.com Ing=E9nieur syst=E8me Mob : +33 (0) 683 877 875 Tel : +33 (0) 178 945 552 One2team 40 avenue Raymond Poincar=E9 75116 Paris