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From: Johan Herland <johan@herland.net>
To: git@vger.kernel.org
Cc: Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>,
	Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
	markus.heidelberg@web.de,
	Peter Hutterer <peter.hutterer@who-t.net>
Subject: Re: git submodule update --merge (Was: What's cooking in git.git (May 2009, #02; Sun, 17))
Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 13:59:37 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200905251359.37619.johan@herland.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200905191526.40471.johan@herland.net>

On Tuesday 19 May 2009, Johan Herland wrote:
> On Tuesday 19 May 2009, Johannes Schindelin wrote:
> > On Tue, 19 May 2009, Johan Herland wrote:
> > > I still don't see any reason why one should be added (--rebase),
> > > and not the other (--merge).
> >
> > When you rebase, you see your personal stuff (i.e. stuff that you
> > do not want to submit, or not in its current form, or that you
> > submitted and it waits for inclusion) on top of things right away.
>
> But if there are developers downstream whose work is based on your
> submodule branch, the rebase will disrupt _their_ work, in the same
> way that rebasing any other public branch would disrupt people's
> work.
>
> > In contrast, if you merge, you will have a different state from the
> > upstream _forever_.  Even if your stuff gets included.
>
> Correct, but there are cases where reconciliation with the upstream
> repo is less important than not disrupting downstream developers (see
> below).
>
> > Needless to say, I do not see much use for the latter case, but
> > tons for the former.
>
> I fully agree that for a regular downstream (or "leaf") developer,
> there is not much use for git submodule rebase --merge.
>
> But not all developers fit nicely into your scenario above.
> 
> [Workflow description in which "git submodule update --merge" would
>  be a helpful addition]
>
> I understand that the above scenario is not common in the free
> software world, but I believe it is much more common in an
> enterprise/company setting. Therefore, the support of such workflows
> is important to companies that are currently considering (or have
> already chosen) Git. I believe there is value in supporting such
> workflows, especially when doing so is as straightforward as my patch
> shows.

I haven't received any replies to my attempt to describe the context in 
which "git submodule update --merge" is useful. A hint as to whether my 
argument is valid, or just crap, would be nice.

In any case, even if we don't include "git submodule update --merge", 
could we _please_ consider changing the associated config variable from

  submodule.<name>.rebase = true/false (false if unset)

to something like

  submodule.<name>.update = checkout/rebase (checkout if unset)

or (Junio's suggestion)

  submodule.<name>.rebind = never/rebase (never if unset)

so that we at least have the _option_ of adding other alternatives in 
the future?


Have fun! :)

...Johan

-- 
Johan Herland, <johan@herland.net>
www.herland.net

  reply	other threads:[~2009-05-25 12:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-05-17  8:05 What's cooking in git.git (May 2009, #02; Sun, 17) Junio C Hamano
2009-05-17  9:45 ` Jakub Narebski
2009-05-17 17:58   ` Junio C Hamano
2009-05-17 18:27     ` Jakub Narebski
2009-05-17 11:41 ` David Aguilar
2009-05-18 13:36 ` Johan Herland
2009-05-18 19:40   ` Markus Heidelberg
2009-05-18 21:55     ` Johan Herland
2009-05-19  0:35       ` [PATCH] git-submodule: add support for --merge Johan Herland
2009-05-19  1:33       ` What's cooking in git.git (May 2009, #02; Sun, 17) Junio C Hamano
2009-05-19  7:23         ` Johan Herland
2009-05-19  8:17           ` Johannes Schindelin
2009-05-19  8:45             ` Johan Herland
2009-05-19 11:53               ` Johannes Schindelin
2009-05-19 13:26                 ` git submodule update --merge (Was: What's cooking in git.git (May 2009, #02; Sun, 17)) Johan Herland
2009-05-25 11:59                   ` Johan Herland [this message]
2009-05-25 18:33                     ` git submodule update --merge Junio C Hamano
2009-05-25 18:57                       ` Johannes Schindelin
2009-05-25 19:04                         ` Avery Pennarun
2009-05-25 19:54                           ` Johannes Schindelin
2009-05-25 22:48                             ` Johan Herland
2009-05-25 22:10                       ` Johan Herland
2009-05-25 23:15                     ` git submodule update --merge (Was: What's cooking in git.git (May 2009, #02; Sun, 17)) Peter Hutterer

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