From: Jakub Narebski <jnareb@gmail.com>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: "Shawn O. Pearce" <spearce@spearce.org>,
Scott Chacon <schacon@gmail.com>,
git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Request for detailed documentation of git pack protocol
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 00:46:21 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200906040046.22383.jnareb@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7vzlcp55g3.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org>
Junio C Hamano wrote:
> Jakub Narebski <jnareb@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > 1. Server sends space separated list of capabilities it support. It
> > MUST NOT send capabilities it *does not* support. It MAY NOT send
> > "include-tag" if there are no tag objects (or is it SHOULD NOT?).
>
> I doubt RFC 2119 lingo would include MAY NOT, as it is ambiguous
> especially to non-native speakers (like me).
You are right, RFC 2119 does not include MAY NOT.
> You meant to say "MAY omit
> sending", perhaps, but in general capabilies are what you _can_ do at the
> protocol level, and in my opinion, you shouldn't have to check if a
> particular repository you (as a program with given set of features
> implemented) happen to be looking at has tags in order to decide what
> capabilities to advertise.
I wonder why in http://book.git-scm.com/7_transfer_protocols.html
("Git Community Book", chapter "7. Internals and Plumbing", section
"Transfer Protocols", subsection "Fetching Data with Upload Pack")
"include-tag" is not included ;) in advertised server capabilities.
Because github's git-daemon advertises it even if there are no
tags present
$ echo -e -n "0039git-upload-pack /schacon/gitbook.git\0host=github.com\0" |
nc -v github.com 9418
Connection to github.com 9418 port [tcp/*] succeeded!
00887217a7c7e582c46cec22a130adf4b9d7d950fba0 HEAD\0multi_ack thin-pack side-band side-band-64k ofs-delta shallow no-progress include-tag
00441d3fcd5ced445d1abc402225c0b8a1299641f497 refs/heads/integration
003f7217a7c7e582c46cec22a130adf4b9d7d950fba0 refs/heads/master
003edc9d991bc43cb04e692efc793f885eb4ff7fda98 refs/heads/pt_BR
> > 2. Client sends space separated list of capabilities it wants. It SHOULD
> > (or perhaps it is MAY?) send subset of server capabilities, i.e do
> > not send capabilities served does not advertise.
>
> I'd say "the client SHOULD NOT ask for capabilities the server did not say
> it supports".
I agree that it is better formulation (phrasing).
>
> > 3. Server MUST ignore capabilities it does not understand. Server MUST
> > NOT ignore capabilities (or SHOULD NOT only?) that client requested
> > and server advertised.
>
> I know unrecognized capability requests are silently ignored, but I
> consider that as a sloppy/practical programming, and not a specification.
Well, the whole 'be strict in what you send, and accepting in what you
accept' leads unfortunately to accepting sloppy programming and coding.
Nevertheless it is I guess better to silently ignore unknown
capabilities requested by client than fail, isn't it?
--
Jakub Narebski
Poland
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-06-03 22:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-05-12 21:29 Request for detailed documentation of git pack protocol Jakub Narebski
2009-05-12 23:34 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2009-05-14 8:24 ` Jakub Narebski
2009-05-14 14:57 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2009-05-14 15:02 ` Andreas Ericsson
2009-05-15 20:29 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-05-15 16:51 ` Clemens Buchacher
2009-05-14 18:13 ` Nicolas Pitre
2009-05-14 20:27 ` Jakub Narebski
2009-05-14 13:55 ` Scott Chacon
2009-05-14 14:44 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2009-05-14 15:01 ` Jakub Narebski
2009-05-15 0:58 ` A Large Angry SCM
2009-05-15 19:05 ` Ealdwulf Wuffinga
2009-06-02 21:39 ` Jakub Narebski
2009-06-02 23:27 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2009-06-03 0:50 ` Jakub Narebski
2009-06-03 1:29 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2009-06-03 2:11 ` Junio C Hamano
2009-06-03 2:15 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2009-06-03 9:21 ` Jakub Narebski
2009-06-03 14:48 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2009-06-03 15:07 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2009-06-03 15:39 ` Jakub Narebski
2009-06-03 15:50 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2009-06-03 16:51 ` Jakub Narebski
2009-06-03 16:56 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2009-06-03 20:19 ` Jakub Narebski
2009-06-03 20:24 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2009-06-03 22:04 ` Jakub Narebski
2009-06-03 22:04 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2009-06-03 22:16 ` Junio C Hamano
2009-06-03 22:46 ` Jakub Narebski [this message]
2009-06-04 7:17 ` Andreas Ericsson
2009-06-04 7:26 ` Junio C Hamano
2009-06-06 16:33 ` Scott Chacon
2009-06-06 17:24 ` Junio C Hamano
2009-06-06 17:41 ` Jakub Narebski
2009-06-03 21:38 ` Tony Finch
2009-06-03 17:11 ` Junio C Hamano
2009-06-03 19:05 ` Johannes Sixt
2009-06-03 2:18 ` Robin H. Johnson
2009-06-03 10:47 ` Jakub Narebski
2009-06-03 14:17 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2009-06-03 20:56 ` Tony Finch
2009-06-03 21:20 ` Jakub Narebski
2009-06-03 21:53 ` Tony Finch
2009-06-04 8:45 ` Jakub Narebski
2009-06-04 11:41 ` Tony Finch
2009-06-04 18:41 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2009-06-03 12:29 ` Jakub Narebski
2009-06-03 14:19 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2009-06-04 20:55 ` Jakub Narebski
2009-06-04 21:57 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2009-06-05 0:45 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2009-06-05 7:24 ` Jakub Narebski
2009-06-05 8:45 ` Jakub Narebski
2009-06-06 21:38 ` Comments pack protocol description in "Git Community Book" (second round) Jakub Narebski
2009-06-06 21:58 ` Scott Chacon
2009-06-07 8:21 ` Jakub Narebski
2009-06-07 20:13 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2009-06-07 20:43 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2009-06-13 9:30 ` Comments pack protocol description in "RFC for the Git Packfile Protocol" (long) Jakub Narebski
2009-06-07 20:06 ` Comments pack protocol description in "Git Community Book" (second round) Shawn O. Pearce
2009-06-09 9:39 ` Jakub Narebski
2009-06-09 14:28 ` Shawn O. Pearce
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