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From: Jakub Narebski <jnareb@gmail.com>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: "Shawn O. Pearce" <spearce@spearce.org>,
	Scott Chacon <schacon@gmail.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Request for detailed documentation of git pack protocol
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 00:46:21 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200906040046.22383.jnareb@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7vzlcp55g3.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org>

Junio C Hamano wrote:
> Jakub Narebski <jnareb@gmail.com> writes:
> 
> > 1. Server sends space separated list of capabilities it support. It
> >    MUST NOT send capabilities it *does not* support. It MAY NOT send
> >    "include-tag" if there are no tag objects (or is it SHOULD NOT?).
> 
> I doubt RFC 2119 lingo would include MAY NOT, as it is ambiguous
> especially to non-native speakers (like me).  

You are right, RFC 2119 does not include MAY NOT.

> You meant to say "MAY omit 
> sending", perhaps, but in general capabilies are what you _can_ do at the
> protocol level, and in my opinion, you shouldn't have to check if a
> particular repository you (as a program with given set of features
> implemented) happen to be looking at has tags in order to decide what
> capabilities to advertise.

I wonder why in http://book.git-scm.com/7_transfer_protocols.html 
("Git Community Book", chapter "7. Internals and Plumbing", section
 "Transfer Protocols", subsection "Fetching Data with Upload Pack")
"include-tag" is not included ;) in advertised server capabilities.
Because github's git-daemon advertises it even if there are no
tags present

  $ echo -e -n "0039git-upload-pack /schacon/gitbook.git\0host=github.com\0" | 
    nc -v github.com 9418
  Connection to github.com 9418 port [tcp/*] succeeded!
  00887217a7c7e582c46cec22a130adf4b9d7d950fba0 HEAD\0multi_ack thin-pack side-band side-band-64k ofs-delta shallow no-progress include-tag
  00441d3fcd5ced445d1abc402225c0b8a1299641f497 refs/heads/integration
  003f7217a7c7e582c46cec22a130adf4b9d7d950fba0 refs/heads/master
  003edc9d991bc43cb04e692efc793f885eb4ff7fda98 refs/heads/pt_BR

> > 2. Client sends space separated list of capabilities it wants. It SHOULD
> >    (or perhaps it is MAY?) send subset of server capabilities, i.e do
> >    not send capabilities served does not advertise.
> 
> I'd say "the client SHOULD NOT ask for capabilities the server did not say
> it supports".

I agree that it is better formulation (phrasing).

> 
> > 3. Server MUST ignore capabilities it does not understand. Server MUST
> >    NOT ignore capabilities (or SHOULD NOT only?) that client requested
> >    and server advertised.
> 
> I know unrecognized capability requests are silently ignored, but I
> consider that as a sloppy/practical programming, and not a specification.

Well, the whole 'be strict in what you send, and accepting in what you
accept' leads unfortunately to accepting sloppy programming and coding.

Nevertheless it is I guess better to silently ignore unknown
capabilities requested by client than fail, isn't it?

-- 
Jakub Narebski
Poland

  reply	other threads:[~2009-06-03 22:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-05-12 21:29 Request for detailed documentation of git pack protocol Jakub Narebski
2009-05-12 23:34 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2009-05-14  8:24   ` Jakub Narebski
2009-05-14 14:57     ` Shawn O. Pearce
2009-05-14 15:02       ` Andreas Ericsson
2009-05-15 20:29         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-05-15 16:51       ` Clemens Buchacher
2009-05-14 18:13     ` Nicolas Pitre
2009-05-14 20:27       ` Jakub Narebski
2009-05-14 13:55   ` Scott Chacon
2009-05-14 14:44     ` Shawn O. Pearce
2009-05-14 15:01     ` Jakub Narebski
2009-05-15  0:58       ` A Large Angry SCM
2009-05-15 19:05         ` Ealdwulf Wuffinga
2009-06-02 21:39     ` Jakub Narebski
2009-06-02 23:27       ` Shawn O. Pearce
2009-06-03  0:50         ` Jakub Narebski
2009-06-03  1:29           ` Shawn O. Pearce
2009-06-03  2:11             ` Junio C Hamano
2009-06-03  2:15               ` Shawn O. Pearce
2009-06-03  9:21             ` Jakub Narebski
2009-06-03 14:48               ` Shawn O. Pearce
2009-06-03 15:07                 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2009-06-03 15:39                   ` Jakub Narebski
2009-06-03 15:50                     ` Shawn O. Pearce
2009-06-03 16:51                 ` Jakub Narebski
2009-06-03 16:56                   ` Shawn O. Pearce
2009-06-03 20:19                     ` Jakub Narebski
2009-06-03 20:24                       ` Shawn O. Pearce
2009-06-03 22:04                         ` Jakub Narebski
2009-06-03 22:04                           ` Shawn O. Pearce
2009-06-03 22:16                           ` Junio C Hamano
2009-06-03 22:46                             ` Jakub Narebski [this message]
2009-06-04  7:17                         ` Andreas Ericsson
2009-06-04  7:26                           ` Junio C Hamano
2009-06-06 16:33                     ` Scott Chacon
2009-06-06 17:24                       ` Junio C Hamano
2009-06-06 17:41                       ` Jakub Narebski
2009-06-03 21:38                   ` Tony Finch
2009-06-03 17:11                 ` Junio C Hamano
2009-06-03 19:05                 ` Johannes Sixt
2009-06-03  2:18           ` Robin H. Johnson
2009-06-03 10:47             ` Jakub Narebski
2009-06-03 14:17               ` Shawn O. Pearce
2009-06-03 20:56           ` Tony Finch
2009-06-03 21:20             ` Jakub Narebski
2009-06-03 21:53               ` Tony Finch
2009-06-04  8:45                 ` Jakub Narebski
2009-06-04 11:41                   ` Tony Finch
2009-06-04 18:41                   ` Shawn O. Pearce
2009-06-03 12:29       ` Jakub Narebski
2009-06-03 14:19         ` Shawn O. Pearce
2009-06-04 20:55       ` Jakub Narebski
2009-06-04 21:57         ` Shawn O. Pearce
2009-06-05  0:45         ` Shawn O. Pearce
2009-06-05  7:24           ` Jakub Narebski
2009-06-05  8:45             ` Jakub Narebski
2009-06-06 21:38       ` Comments pack protocol description in "Git Community Book" (second round) Jakub Narebski
2009-06-06 21:58         ` Scott Chacon
2009-06-07  8:21           ` Jakub Narebski
2009-06-07 20:13             ` Shawn O. Pearce
2009-06-07 20:43           ` Shawn O. Pearce
2009-06-13  9:30           ` Comments pack protocol description in "RFC for the Git Packfile Protocol" (long) Jakub Narebski
2009-06-07 20:06         ` Comments pack protocol description in "Git Community Book" (second round) Shawn O. Pearce
2009-06-09  9:39           ` Jakub Narebski
2009-06-09 14:28             ` Shawn O. Pearce

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