From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Jakub Narebski Subject: Re: [RFC] Git User's Survey 2009 - trial run Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 17:44:04 +0200 Message-ID: <200906261744.04610.jnareb@gmail.com> References: <200906252122.51737.jnareb@gmail.com> <94a0d4530906260412h78b55458gc722964011edb54d@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Cc: git@vger.kernel.org To: Felipe Contreras X-From: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Fri Jun 26 17:44:21 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcvg-git-2@gmane.org Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.132.176.167]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MKDbB-0003Eg-0J for gcvg-git-2@gmane.org; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 17:44:21 +0200 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751327AbZFZPoI convert rfc822-to-quoted-printable (ORCPT ); Fri, 26 Jun 2009 11:44:08 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751312AbZFZPoG (ORCPT ); Fri, 26 Jun 2009 11:44:06 -0400 Received: from mail-fx0-f213.google.com ([209.85.220.213]:37898 "EHLO mail-fx0-f213.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751248AbZFZPoE (ORCPT ); Fri, 26 Jun 2009 11:44:04 -0400 Received: by fxm9 with SMTP id 9so2183834fxm.37 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 08:44:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:cc:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; bh=U8nodrcIxgzPucSyG3YpZCZZ8IKWrsGVMICAl7FsmZI=; b=gvb6opkRKQ/Vxl5DkNJYejtzy5d6CjQEtZMl9UbNDpLIdFib0FMd3mbrRXOVD6XtE/ JOimDCkCbUobYMaWqjCugKPMPC8I24/ZHmA8RoEXyKgrA/yuAD9X2hn0esheFtoooBqq EzZFwl8JFDnJN3XxoSmLXzWI9j6FjmX/65Vus= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:cc:references:in-reply-to :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition:message-id; b=f7Dox55sank3zeU20MgopvbCmyrZgYf69j8052n3/+4Qo6pu8F4Y8FGj8LKHuvQHel xcCv2i0178frmQGk4JfBX4iektjAf2YKJkMaRB0nJuOzrAoM99KoeSgaZXpiTzFS+gn3 ZqLT/MnltVzFgiMJS0Pvt/Z+WtWi6gJtWaZEA= Received: by 10.103.248.17 with SMTP id a17mr2346701mus.97.1246031046139; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 08:44:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.13? (abwa104.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl [83.8.224.104]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 7sm18143150mup.24.2009.06.26.08.44.05 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 26 Jun 2009 08:44:05 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 In-Reply-To: <94a0d4530906260412h78b55458gc722964011edb54d@mail.gmail.com> Content-Disposition: inline Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Archived-At: On Fri, 26 June 2009, Felipe Contreras wrote: > 2009/6/25 Jakub Narebski : > > I have created _proposed_ version of questions for upcoming > > "Git User's Survey 2009", based on (a bit of) feedback on git > > mailing list: > > =C2=A0"[RFH] Questions for Git User's Survey 2009" > > =C2=A0Msg-Id: <200905291855.03328.jnareb@gmail.com> > > =C2=A0http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.git/120287 > > and comments on #git IRC channel on FreeNode. > > > > Current version of survey has 30 questions, as compared to > > 60 questions last year; the number of free-form essay questions > > were also greatly reduced. > > > > > > The *test* version of this year survey can be now found at > > the following URL (as in previous year, we use Survs.com) > > > > =C2=A0http://www.survs.com/survey?id=3D2PIMZGU0&channel=3DTFN2Y52K7= Y I reworked those comments a bit, to make it easier to see proposed changes. > These are my comments: >=20 > -3. Did you find Git easy to learn? > +3. Have you found Git easy to learn? >=20 > That assumes the user already learned to use git [...] Thanks. I think your version is better. >=20 > -8. How do you obtain Git? > +8. How did you obtain Git? (maybe s/obtain/install/) >=20 > Most people install once, or at least not very often Perhaps +8. How did/do you obtain Git? It is IMHO more interesting how people upgrade Git, than just how they installed it. >=20 > -14. How do you fetch/get changes from upstream repository? > +14. How do you fetch/get changes from upstream repositories? >=20 > Only one repository? Good catch. Thanks. >=20 > git ... --dirstat >=20 > Isn't '--stat' more common? > git ... --stat (or --dirstat) Well, this is specifically about this rare used feature/option. "git ... --stat" or "git ... --summary" is a byproduct of many other commands, like "git pull" / "git merge", or "git format-patch". But perhaps we should ask about it explicitly. >=20 > -18. Which of the following features do or did you use? > +18. Which of the following features have you used? >=20 > More readable. True. Thanks. >=20 > -22. Did you participate in previous Git User's Surveys? > +22. In which of the previous Git User's Surveys have you participate= d? >=20 > -24. Which form of Git documentation do you use? > - Do you consider them useful? > +24. How useful have you found Git documentation? >=20 > -28. Do you read the mailing list, or watch IRC channel? > +28. Which communication channels do you use? Good ideas. >=20 > Also, I would like to see a list of areas users would like improvemen= ts: > XX. In you opinion, which areas need improvement? > * user-interface > * documentation > * performance > * more features > * other >=20 > Is there a way for users to assign points? eg. user-interface: 2, > documentation: 1, more features: 1 We can always use 'matrix' form, with columns corresponding to importan= ce of a given area for improvement (1-3, or 1-5 numeric range). Because asking user to order from most important to least important (one can enforce this on Survs.com by requiring only one answer with given colum= n selected) would be too difficult and confusing. >=20 > I like it better than the previous one :) Thanks! --=20 Jakub Narebski Poland