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From: Jakub Narebski <jnareb@gmail.com>
To: Avery Pennarun <apenwarr@gmail.com>
Cc: Matthias Andree <matthias.andree@gmx.de>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, Matthieu Moy <Matthieu.Moy@imag.fr>
Subject: Re: Merging in Subversion 1.5
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 18:19:06 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200908281819.10135.jnareb@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <32541b130908280829s6fcebbe5ja84b10e649de1eb3@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, 28 Aug 2009, Avery Pennarun wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 3:12 PM, Jakub Narebski<jnareb@gmail.com> wrote:

> > From what I understand (from what I have read, and browsed, and
> > lurged, and noticed) is that Subversion 1.5+ does merge tracking, but
> > in very different way that in Git:
> >
> >  * the svn:mergeinfo is client-side property; if I understand
> >   correctly this would help you in repeated merges, but not anyone
> >   other
> 
> I don't believe there is such a thing as a "client-side property" in
> svn.

What about svn:ignore or svn:mimetype (IIRC) property?

> I see someone said this on stackoverflow 
> (http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1156698/are-svn-merges-idempotent)
> but I'm pretty sure they were either mistaken or using a different
> definition of "client-side."

I think I got this (wrong?) impression from there.

> >  * svn:mergeinfo contains _per-file_ merge info, so it is much, much
> >   more "chatty" than Git multiple parents.  This might be more
> >   powerfull approach, in the same sense that more advanced merge
> >   strategies that 3-way merge were more powerfull -- but 3-way merge
> >   is best because it is simple (and either it is simple that 3-way
> >   merge is enough, or complicated so manual intervention is required).
> 
> svn people really love their cherry-picks and want to keep track of
> which things get cherry picked from one branch to another.  This is
> nice (at least for informational purposes) although they go through
> some probably-unnecessary contortions *after* doing this, including
> splitting a merge from "maint" into "master" into two sequential
> merges, if you've previously cherry-picked a commit from master into
> maint.  The above svn book link describes this in a bit more detail.
> 
> I don't think that behaviour would be much help in any situation I've
> ever experienced, so I agree with your comment that 3-way merge is
> generally better.

Errr... what I meant here that I have read (on some blog, but either
I didn't bookmark it, or I can't find the bookmark) that svn:mergeinfo
is not as simple as listing _revisions_ which are merged (i.e. either
all parents, or additional parent), but it lists per-file merge 
information, and can be quite large.
 
> >  * You have to explicitely enable using svn:mergeinfo in log and blame
> 
> Conversely, in git you can basically disable it using --first-parent,
> which is sometimes handy. [...]

In git-log.  But in git-blame?

-- 
Jakub Narebski
Poland

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-08-28 16:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-08-27 20:34 Using git to track my PhD thesis, couple of questions seanh
2009-08-27 20:41 ` Sverre Rabbelier
2009-08-27 20:55 ` Matthieu Moy
2009-08-28  8:34   ` Paolo Bonzini
2009-08-28  8:46     ` Matthieu Moy
2009-08-28 13:37       ` seanh
2009-08-28 13:51         ` Matthieu Moy
2009-08-28 13:54           ` Matthias Andree
2009-08-28 15:12             ` Merging in Subversion 1.5 (was: Re: Using git to track my PhD thesis, couple of questions) Jakub Narebski
2009-08-28 15:29               ` Avery Pennarun
2009-08-28 15:44                 ` Matthias Andree
2009-08-28 16:19                 ` Jakub Narebski [this message]
2009-08-28 16:28                   ` Merging in Subversion 1.5 Matthias Andree
2009-08-28 16:34                   ` Avery Pennarun
2009-08-30 19:41               ` Merging in Subversion 1.5 (was: Re: Using git to track my PhD thesis, couple of questions) Sam Vilain
2009-08-31  5:47                 ` Dmitry Potapov
2009-08-28 21:42           ` Using git to track my PhD thesis, couple of questions david
2009-08-28 15:50         ` Paolo Bonzini
2009-08-28 16:12         ` demerphq
2009-08-28 21:44           ` david
2009-08-28 22:16             ` demerphq
2009-08-27 21:38 ` Junio C Hamano
2009-08-27 22:21 ` demerphq

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