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From: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
To: Nanako Shiraishi <nanako3@lavabit.com>
Cc: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
	Matthieu Moy <Matthieu.Moy@imag.fr>,
	Teemu Likonen <tlikonen@iki.fi>,
	git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: [RFC/PATCH 0/4] make helpful messages optional
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 02:44:54 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090906064454.GA1643@coredump.intra.peff.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090811120313.6117@nanako3.lavabit.com>

On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 12:03:13PM +0900, Nanako Shiraishi wrote:

>  		error("failed to push some refs to '%s'", url[i]);
> +		if (nonfastforward) {
> +			printf("To prevent you from losing history, non-fast-forward updates were rejected.\n"
> +			       "Merge the remote changes before pushing again.\n"
> +			       "See 'non-fast forward' section of 'git push --help' for details.\n");
> +		}

I saw this message in regular use for the first time today, and I
thought it was terribly ugly. The sheer number of lines, coupled with
the extremely ragged right edge made it much harder to pick out the
nicely formatted status table. And of course the information in the
message was totally worthless to me, as an experienced git user.

So rather than re-open the debate on whether this message should exist
or not, here is a patch series which tries to address the issue:

  [1/4]: push: fix english in non-fast-forward message

    Hopefully non-controversial.

  [2/4]: push: re-flow non-fast-forward message

    This makes it prettier, IMHO.  I suspect the message was flowed as
    it was originally on purpose so that each sentence began on its own
    line. I think making it easier on the eyes is more important,
    though.

  [3/4]: push: make non-fast-forward help message configurable

    I feel like we have had this exact sort of tension before: we want
    one thing to help new users and experienced users want another
    thing. We have resisted an "expert user" config variable in the past
    because proposals usually involved a change of behavior, which could
    lead to quite confusing results. However, I think the case of
    "helpful messages" is much simpler. The message is meant purely for
    human consumption and is redundant with information already given,
    so an expert sitting at a novice's terminal (or vice versa) will not
    encounter any surprises.

    This actually introduces infrastructure for other, similar messages,
    so that we can make existing ones optional, or build new ones as
    appropriate.

  [4/4]: status: make "how to stage" messages optional

    This uses the infrastructure in 3/4 to lose the "use git add to add
    untracked files" advice.

I think (1) and (2) are pretty straightforward. (3) and (4) are more
questionable, and I am undecided whether I am over-reacting to being
annoyed by the message. I do know this is not the first time I have had
the urge to write such a patch, so maybe others feel the same.

-Peff

  reply	other threads:[~2009-09-06  6:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-08-06 17:32 [PATCH] push: point to 'git pull' and 'git push --force' in case of non-fast forward Matthieu Moy
2009-08-06 20:04 ` Michael J Gruber
2009-08-07 19:21   ` Matthieu Moy
2009-08-07 19:46     ` Michael J Gruber
2009-08-06 20:15 ` Junio C Hamano
2009-08-06 21:16   ` [PATCH] " Nicolas Sebrecht
2009-08-06 21:32     ` Junio C Hamano
2009-08-07 19:37   ` [PATCH] " Matthieu Moy
2009-08-07 20:05     ` Junio C Hamano
2009-08-07 20:22       ` Matthieu Moy
2009-08-08  7:51 ` [PATCH v2] " Matthieu Moy
2009-08-08  8:35   ` Teemu Likonen
2009-08-08 15:22     ` Matthieu Moy
2009-08-08 16:25       ` Junio C Hamano
2009-08-08 22:23         ` [PATCH v2] " Nicolas Sebrecht
2009-08-09 18:35         ` [PATCH v2] " Matthieu Moy
2009-08-09 20:22           ` Junio C Hamano
2009-08-10  8:43             ` Matthieu Moy
2009-08-10  8:49               ` Junio C Hamano
2009-08-10  8:56                 ` Matthieu Moy
2009-08-11  3:03         ` Nanako Shiraishi
2009-09-06  6:44           ` Jeff King [this message]
2009-09-06  6:46             ` [PATCH 1/4] push: fix english in non-fast-forward message Jeff King
2009-09-06  6:47             ` [PATCH 2/4] push: re-flow " Jeff King
2009-09-06  6:48             ` [PATCH 3/4] push: make non-fast-forward help message configurable Jeff King
2009-09-06  7:09               ` Junio C Hamano
2009-09-06  7:23                 ` Jeff King
2009-09-06  7:30                   ` Junio C Hamano
2009-09-06  7:32                     ` Jeff King
2009-09-06  7:52                   ` Junio C Hamano
2009-09-06 11:30                     ` Sverre Rabbelier
2009-09-07  0:44                     ` Nanako Shiraishi
2009-09-07  7:35                       ` Johannes Sixt
2009-09-07  7:40                       ` Mike Hommey
2009-09-07  8:24                       ` Jeff King
2009-09-07  8:34                         ` Matthieu Moy
2009-09-07  8:54                           ` Jeff King
2009-09-07 11:20                             ` Matthieu Moy
2009-09-08 18:51                             ` Uri Okrent
2009-09-09 11:22                               ` Jeff King
2009-09-09 11:26                   ` [PATCH 0/2] configurable advice messages Jeff King
2009-09-09 11:38                     ` [PATCH 1/2] push: make non-fast-forward help message configurable Jeff King
2009-09-09 19:06                       ` Junio C Hamano
2009-09-09 20:39                         ` Jeff King
2009-09-09 21:47                           ` Junio C Hamano
2009-09-09 11:43                     ` [PATCH 2/2] status: make "how to stage" messages optional Jeff King
2009-09-06  6:50             ` [PATCH 4/4] " Jeff King
2009-09-06 11:53             ` [RFC/PATCH 0/4] make helpful " Matthieu Moy

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