From: "Björn Steinbrink" <B.Steinbrink@gmx.de>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: Christoph Bartoschek <bartoschek@gmx.de>,
git@vger.kernel.org, Daniel Barkalow <barkalow@iabervon.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Proof-of-concept patch to remember what the detached HEAD was
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 10:19:01 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091017081901.GB5474@atjola.homenet> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7vr5t2h3do.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org>
On 2009.10.17 00:43:31 -0700, Junio C Hamano wrote:
> Christoph Bartoschek <bartoschek@gmx.de> writes:
> > Daniel Barkalow wrote:
> >
> >> The upshot of the messages should be:
> >>
> >> $ git checkout origin/master
> >> Since you can't actually change "origin/master" yourself, you'll just
> >> be sightseeing unless you create a local branch to hold new local work.
> >>
> >> $ git branch
> >> * (not a local branch, but "origin/master")
> >>
> >> $ git commit
> >> You've been sightseeing "origin/master". The commit can't change that
> >> value, so your commit isn't held in any branch. If you want to create
> >> a branch to hold it, here's how.
[...]
> The second item in the Daniel's transcript above may be an improvement but
> I think it is a wrong economy to record and show 'but "origin/master"'
> (which cannot be correct forever and has to be invalidated once the user
> starts committing or resetting) in the message.
I don't think it's entirely wrong to record that information, git just
has to know when to invalidate it, possibly requiring the user to really
detach HEAD.
git checkout origin/master
git checkout origin/master~3
git checkout HEAD^2~5
git reset --hard HEAD~2
Those commands are all about walking the ancestry of origin/master in
some way. So it seems reasonable to assume that HEAD is still weakly
bound to origin/master. And based upon that, there could be something
like "git update", and things like "git status" could show that you're
browsing through the ancestry of origin/master, and that "git commit"
message could maybe say "You've been sightseeing 'origin/master'
[currently at 'origin/master~3^2~7'] ...".
> I am wondering if a similar effect to help new users can be had by
> rewording the message to:
>
> $ git branch
> * (not a local branch; see "git reflog" to learn how you got here)
>
> The user can see how he got there even after doing something else after
> the checkout (see Nico's write-up in $gmane/130527). The difference is
> between giving fish and teaching how to catch one himself.
That could be used when the user actively detached HEAD, invalidating
the "weak binding". Maybe implicitly by "git commit" or
"git reset <something_we_can't_keep_track_of>", or maybe explicitly,
if committing on a "semi-detached HEAD" becomes forbidden.
Or maybe it could always be shown, in addition to "You are here", you
also get told "Do this to find out how you got there". Does seem like a
good idea.
Björn
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Thread overview: 93+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-10-14 4:44 [PATCH] Proof-of-concept patch to remember what the detached HEAD was Daniel Barkalow
2009-10-14 5:07 ` Junio C Hamano
2009-10-14 5:08 ` Jeff King
2009-10-14 10:33 ` Johannes Schindelin
2009-10-14 15:39 ` Jeff King
2009-10-14 18:34 ` Junio C Hamano
2009-10-14 18:40 ` Jeff King
2009-10-14 15:56 ` Daniel Barkalow
2009-10-14 18:56 ` Jay Soffian
2009-10-14 19:15 ` Daniel Barkalow
2009-10-14 20:18 ` Nicolas Pitre
2009-10-14 20:37 ` Daniel Barkalow
2009-10-14 20:42 ` Junio C Hamano
2009-10-14 20:48 ` Nicolas Pitre
2009-10-14 22:34 ` Junio C Hamano
2009-10-14 23:09 ` Jeff King
2009-10-14 23:34 ` Nicolas Pitre
2009-10-15 0:56 ` Junio C Hamano
2009-10-15 1:47 ` Jeff King
2009-10-15 3:08 ` Nicolas Pitre
2009-10-15 4:21 ` Jeff King
2009-10-16 1:04 ` Johannes Schindelin
2009-10-16 1:36 ` Nicolas Pitre
2009-10-16 2:07 ` Johannes Schindelin
2009-10-16 2:45 ` Nicolas Pitre
2009-10-16 2:56 ` Junio C Hamano
2009-10-17 7:24 ` Sean Estabrooks
2009-10-26 22:22 ` Johannes Schindelin
2009-10-27 3:41 ` Nanako Shiraishi
2009-10-27 10:33 ` Making Git easy to use -- without RTFM, was " Johannes Schindelin
2009-10-27 17:58 ` Avery Pennarun
2009-10-16 0:53 ` Johannes Schindelin
2009-10-16 3:00 ` Junio C Hamano
2009-10-15 7:36 ` James Pickens
2009-10-15 12:54 ` Jakub Narebski
2009-10-15 14:11 ` Björn Steinbrink
2009-10-15 19:03 ` Nicolas Pitre
2009-10-15 15:36 ` Daniel Barkalow
2009-10-15 16:29 ` Michael J Gruber
2009-10-15 19:07 ` Nicolas Pitre
2009-10-15 19:22 ` Daniel Barkalow
2009-10-15 22:56 ` Thomas Rast
2009-10-15 18:51 ` Nicolas Pitre
2009-10-15 19:52 ` Junio C Hamano
2009-10-15 21:26 ` Jeff King
2009-10-15 21:54 ` Junio C Hamano
2009-10-15 22:08 ` Junio C Hamano
2009-10-15 23:16 ` Nicolas Pitre
2009-10-15 23:47 ` James Pickens
2009-10-16 0:34 ` Nicolas Pitre
2009-10-16 0:43 ` Johannes Schindelin
2009-10-16 5:03 ` Björn Steinbrink
2009-10-15 22:16 ` Jeff King
2009-10-15 22:17 ` Jeff King
2009-10-16 4:29 ` Björn Steinbrink
2009-10-16 6:02 ` Daniel Barkalow
2009-10-16 8:27 ` Björn Steinbrink
2009-10-16 15:44 ` Nicolas Pitre
2009-10-15 19:31 ` Daniel Barkalow
2009-10-15 20:34 ` Junio C Hamano
2009-10-15 21:35 ` Daniel Barkalow
2009-10-15 21:48 ` Nicolas Pitre
2009-10-16 12:15 ` Julian Phillips
2009-10-16 14:30 ` Björn Steinbrink
2009-10-16 17:31 ` Julian Phillips
2009-10-16 18:29 ` Daniel Barkalow
2009-10-16 19:05 ` Junio C Hamano
2009-10-16 19:48 ` Julian Phillips
2009-10-16 20:19 ` Nicolas Pitre
2009-10-17 15:15 ` Julian Phillips
2009-10-17 17:04 ` Björn Steinbrink
2009-10-17 17:35 ` Julian Phillips
2009-10-17 17:48 ` Björn Steinbrink
2009-10-17 22:28 ` Julian Phillips
2009-10-16 20:19 ` Junio C Hamano
2009-10-17 15:32 ` Julian Phillips
2009-10-17 17:43 ` Junio C Hamano
2009-10-17 22:19 ` Julian Phillips
2009-10-17 7:55 ` Björn Steinbrink
2009-10-17 8:11 ` Junio C Hamano
2009-10-17 8:40 ` Björn Steinbrink
2009-10-17 9:04 ` Junio C Hamano
2009-10-17 17:07 ` James Pickens
2009-10-17 19:41 ` Björn Steinbrink
2009-10-18 22:47 ` Junio C Hamano
2009-10-19 8:44 ` Björn Steinbrink
2009-10-17 15:02 ` Julian Phillips
2009-10-14 23:52 ` Eric Raible
2009-10-16 22:36 ` Christoph Bartoschek
2009-10-17 7:43 ` Junio C Hamano
2009-10-17 8:19 ` Björn Steinbrink [this message]
2009-10-17 17:42 ` Junio C Hamano
2009-10-17 20:35 ` Daniel Barkalow
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