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From: "Jan Krüger" <jk@jk.gs>
To: "George Dennie" <gdennie@pospeople.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, torvalds@osdl.org
Subject: Re: Hey - A Conceptual Simplication....
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 14:25:12 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091118142512.1313744e@perceptron> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <005a01ca684e$71a1d710$54e58530$@com>

Hi,

> The result is conceptual complexity and rather counter-intuitive
> behavior. For example, adding and renaming files outside of Git is
> not considered editing the version until you subsequently do a "Git
> Add ." Contrast that with editing or deleting files outside of Git.
> Yet adding and renaming files and folders is a significant part of
> substantive projects, especially in the early stages and experimental
> branches.

yet even now, people routinely add huge amounts of files they didn't
actually want to add, and then have to expend a huge amount of effort
to get them out of the history again (particularly if that history has
already been published).

What you are describing is a workflow that is even fuller of potential
for wrong turns than the current standard workflow is. If simplicity
leads to a greater potential for errors, how is it a good thing?

This kind of workflow actually involves more work for the user. She now
has to meticulously maintain an accurate list of ignore patterns,
particularly because of this:

> Also can we augment checkout to totally CLEAN the working directory
> prior to a restore. If necessary we can augment .gitignore to
> stipulate those files or folders that should be excluded from the
> cleaning.

So if I forget to add a certain pattern, my file is lost forever? Uhh...

> This suggestion is in recognition of the fact that if you
> are not versioning the file, it is typically trash

Just how typical is that, though? I wouldn't want to be the one to
judge that.

In light of my concerns, I oppose adding your suggestions to the
official CLI of git and I suggest that you create your own commands to
enable this kind of workflow. For example:

git config --global alias.commitx '!git add . && git commit'
git config --global alias.checkoutx '!git clean && git checkout'

Jan

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-11-18 13:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-11-18 12:55 Hey - A Conceptual Simplication George Dennie
2009-11-18 13:18 ` Jonathan del Strother
2009-11-18 13:25 ` Jan Krüger [this message]
2009-11-18 18:51   ` George Dennie
2009-11-18 19:40     ` Jakub Narebski
2009-11-18 19:52       ` Jason Sewall
2009-11-19  2:03         ` George Dennie
2009-11-19  7:42           ` Björn Steinbrink
2009-11-19 20:12             ` George Dennie
2009-11-19 21:27               ` Junio C Hamano
2009-11-20  0:49               ` Jakub Narebski
2009-11-20  6:27                 ` Junio C Hamano
2009-11-20  2:31               ` Dmitry Potapov
2009-11-19 10:27           ` Jakub Narebski
2009-11-20  1:48           ` Dmitry Potapov
2009-11-20  1:55             ` david
2009-11-20  2:56               ` Dmitry Potapov
2009-11-20  2:35             ` Björn Steinbrink
2009-11-20  3:08               ` Dmitry Potapov
2009-11-20  1:35     ` Dmitry Potapov
2009-11-20  6:33       ` Junio C Hamano
2009-11-20 15:07         ` Dmitry Potapov
2009-11-18 13:30 ` Thomas Rast
2009-11-18 13:31 ` Jason Sewall
2009-11-18 20:36 ` Linus Torvalds

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