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From: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org>,
	Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy <pclouds@gmail.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] grep: do not do external grep on skip-worktree entries
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 01:44:08 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100104064408.GA7785@coredump.intra.peff.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7vbphaquwl.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org>

On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 09:52:10PM -0800, Junio C Hamano wrote:

> > I agree that Solaris default tools are insane, but is there any reason
> > to munge the PATH for a single feature like external grep? Why not
> > EXTERNAL_GREP=/usr/xpg4/bin/grep (or /usr/local/bin/grep) in the
> > Makefile? Why not GIT_EXTERNAL_GREP=$HOME/bin/grep in the environment?
> 
> That git-sh-setup "fix" is not for running external grep.  It is for our
> scripted Porcelains that rely on working basic tools (sed, tr, who knows
> what else is broken).

Right, but I thought this thread was about external grep, and I thought
you were saying "if you want decent tools, you can use SANE_TOOL_PATH".
And I think we can do much better for that particular case than
recommending SANE_TOOL_PATH (but it seems that is not what you were
actually recommending).

But I admit, I have never really wanted to specify my own external grep.
Wanting your own grep for _features_ is probably insane, as some of your
greps (on worktree files) will use the external grep, and some (on
cached files) will not.  So it is really just an optimization, and I
have never felt it so slow that I cared about messing with an
alternative grep on Solaris.

I have to wonder, though...did anybody ever actually profile our
internal grep to find out _why_ it was so much slower than GNU grep?
Could we simply ship a better grep engine and obsolete external grep?

> In fact, our Makefile by default punts on external grep on Sun's.  Run
> "git grep NO_EXTERNAL_GREP -- Makefile" to see for yourself --- it would
> work even on Solaris ;-)

Yes, I am even mentioned in the commit log of 01ae841c. :)

-Peff

  reply	other threads:[~2010-01-04  6:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-12-30 14:11 [PATCH] grep: do not do external grep on skip-worktree entries Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2009-12-31  7:01 ` Junio C Hamano
2009-12-31  7:09   ` Junio C Hamano
2010-01-02 11:50     ` Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
2010-01-02 18:44       ` Junio C Hamano
2010-01-02 19:15         ` Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
2010-01-02 19:45           ` Junio C Hamano
2010-01-03  2:35             ` Miles Bader
2010-01-03  2:47               ` Miles Bader
2010-01-03  3:08                 ` Miles Bader
2010-01-03 19:32                   ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-03 20:49                     ` Junio C Hamano
2010-01-04  5:31                       ` Jeff King
2010-01-04  5:52                         ` Junio C Hamano
2010-01-04  6:44                           ` Jeff King [this message]
2010-01-04  7:08                             ` Junio C Hamano
2010-01-04  7:14                               ` Junio C Hamano
2010-01-04  7:29                                 ` Jeff King
2010-01-04  7:26                               ` Jeff King
2010-01-04  8:09                                 ` Jeff King
2010-01-04 16:01                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-04 15:54                             ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-04 15:57                               ` Miles Bader
2010-01-04 16:03                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-11  6:39                                   ` Junio C Hamano
2010-01-11 15:43                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-11 15:59                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-11 16:22                                         ` Junio C Hamano
2010-01-11 16:24                                           ` Junio C Hamano
2010-01-11 16:33                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-12  8:29                                             ` Junio C Hamano
2010-01-12  8:31                                               ` [PATCH] grep: lookahead optimization can be used with -L option Junio C Hamano
2010-01-12  8:32                                               ` [PATCH] grep: -L should show empty files Junio C Hamano
2010-01-12 21:27                                                 ` Sverre Rabbelier
2010-01-13  6:56                                                   ` Junio C Hamano
2010-01-13 16:04                                                     ` Sverre Rabbelier
2010-01-13 19:48                                                       ` Junio C Hamano
2010-01-13  6:48                                               ` [PATCH 1/2] grep: rip out support for external grep Junio C Hamano
2010-01-13  8:29                                                 ` Jay Soffian
2010-01-13  8:59                                                   ` Junio C Hamano
2010-01-13 15:20                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-13  6:51                                               ` [PATCH 2/2] grep: rip out pessimization to use fixmatch() Junio C Hamano
2010-01-12 16:21                                         ` [PATCH] grep: do not do external grep on skip-worktree entries Jeff King
2010-01-11 19:26                                     ` Fredrik Kuivinen
     [not found]                                     ` <4c8ef71001111119p253170f8q37bcd3708d894a62@mail.gmail.com>
2010-01-11 19:29                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-11 19:40                                         ` Fredrik Kuivinen
2010-01-11 20:07                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-11 21:07                                             ` Fredrik Kuivinen
2010-01-11 21:24                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-04 16:24                               ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-04 10:14                           ` Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
2010-01-04  6:06                     ` Mike Hommey
2010-01-04  7:04                       ` Jeff King
2010-01-04 12:34             ` [PATCH 1/2] t7002: set test prerequisite "external-grep" if supported Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2010-01-07  2:37               ` Junio C Hamano
2010-01-07  4:29                 ` Junio C Hamano
2010-01-07 13:27                   ` Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
2010-01-07 14:04                     ` Johannes Sixt
2010-01-07 14:26                       ` Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
2010-01-04 12:34             ` [PATCH 2/2] t7002: add tests for skip-worktree fixes in commit a67e281 Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy

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