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From: Nicolas Sebrecht <nicolas.s.dev@gmx.fr>
To: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Cc: Nicolas Sebrecht <nicolas.s.dev@gmx.fr>,
	Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
	Marko Poutiainen <regs@sofistes.net>,
	git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Gitignore matching "git add" wildcard prevents operation
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 17:11:07 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100115161107.GC12982@vidovic> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100115154816.GA1579@coredump.intra.peff.net>

The 15/01/10, Jeff King wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 04:34:19PM +0100, Nicolas Sebrecht wrote:
> 
> > >   1. Most programs don't take their own globs. Without knowing that git
> > >      can do so, there is no reason to discover it in this instance. I
> > >      can see searching the manpage for options, but not for a discussion
> > >      of globbing behavior.
> > > 
> > >   2. They would have to know that using a git-glob will magically change
> > >      the error-checking behavior.
> > 
> > Not sure. This isn't a Git-particular issue.
> > 
> > Users may hit this with a lot of other unix tools (sed, grep, find,
> > etc). So, we can expect either
> >   they already know the issue;
> > or
> >   they are discovering it using Git.
> 
> I don't understand what you mean. How does "sed" do its own globbing of
> the command line?

Well, we are in the same dilemma as the other tools. The internal
globbing rules are explained in the related man page.

> > Most of the tools I talk about do have a manual section about globbing.
> > Users could learn globs with Git too and expect the same behaviour
> > somewhere else.
> 
> Sure. git-add(1) talks about globbing, too

Oops, I was missing that; thanks.

> My complaint was more that as a user, I am not likely to see this
> problem and think "I'll bet git-specific globbing can solve it."

Yes. My point is that we are not talking about a Git specific issue.
What you're raising here is true whatever the command is. So, as long as
we clearly explain how 'git add' works, we are fine. Don't we?

>                                                                  And
> when I look in the manual, I am more likely to look for a command-line
> option that helps me rather than to read all of the text

True. All I can see is to improve the man page with a dedicated section
"Globbing" instead of loosing it in a "random" place.

-- 
Nicolas Sebrecht

  reply	other threads:[~2010-01-15 16:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-01-14 18:18 Gitignore matching "git add" wildcard prevents operation Marko Poutiainen
2010-01-14 19:52 ` Jeff King
2010-01-14 20:21   ` Junio C Hamano
2010-01-14 20:39     ` Jeff King
2010-01-15 15:34       ` Nicolas Sebrecht
2010-01-15 15:48         ` Jeff King
2010-01-15 16:11           ` Nicolas Sebrecht [this message]
2010-01-15 16:30             ` Jeff King
2010-01-15 18:06               ` Nicolas Sebrecht
2010-01-15 18:17             ` Junio C Hamano
2010-01-14 21:07   ` Marko Poutiainen
2010-01-15 15:39     ` Nicolas Sebrecht

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