From: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
To: Ron Garret <ron1@flownet.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: master^ is not a local branch -- huh?!?
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 13:27:34 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100203182734.GA12551@fieldses.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ron1-9204BD.14042202022010@news.gmane.org>
On Tue, Feb 02, 2010 at 02:04:22PM -0800, Ron Garret wrote:
> In article <20100202191942.GB9628@fieldses.org>,
> "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org> wrote:
>
> > My memory is that I'd seen the word "branch" used for both meanings (a
> > linear piece of history, and a ref under ref/heads/), so figured we
> > needed terms for both.
> >
> > But then I didn't really use that distinction anywhere. On a quick skim
> > the only instance I can see of the first sense is in
> > http://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git-core/docs/user-manual.html#counting-com
> > mits-on-a-branch,
> > which could probably be reworded.
> >
> > It still may be worth acknowledging the confusion; e.g., something like:
> >
> > In the above diagram, "A", "B", and "master" are all references
> > to a point in history. We call all three "branches".
> >
> > Informally, the word "branch" is sometimes also used to the
> > entire line of development leading up to one of these points,
> > or, more generally, to any individual line of development. But
> > when speaking about git, a "branch" (or "branch head") will
> > always be a reference to a point in history, and in particular a
> > reference which may be advanced to new commits by future
> > development.
> >
> > Eh, I don't know if that's helpful; maybe that section could just be
> > deleted. Or replaced by a more general discusion of the ref/ namespace.
>
> FWIW, I find the above verbiage to to be very clear, much better than
> what is there now. You might also add that branches are almost exactly
> the same as tags. The only difference (AFAIK) is that tags get dragged
> along by commits and resets and tags don't.
Might also be worth considering whether this:
http://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git-core/docs/user-manual.html#how-git-stores-references
or some other general introduction to refs, should be moved to appear
earlier in the manual.
Apologies, though, I can't volunteer for now; if you'd like any of this
to happen, I'd recommend sending Junio patches. (I'll try to read them
if you cc: me.)
--b.
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Thread overview: 111+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-02-01 11:52 master^ is not a local branch -- huh?!? Steve Diver
2010-02-01 17:38 ` Junio C Hamano
2010-02-01 17:58 ` Sergei Organov
2010-02-01 22:52 ` Ron Garret
2010-02-01 23:01 ` Petr Baudis
2010-02-01 23:25 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-02-01 23:37 ` Junio C Hamano
2010-02-01 23:56 ` Ron Garret
2010-02-02 0:15 ` Petr Baudis
2010-02-02 0:45 ` Ron Garret
2010-02-02 0:53 ` Junio C Hamano
2010-02-02 1:12 ` Ron Garret
2010-02-02 19:19 ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-02-02 22:04 ` Ron Garret
2010-02-03 18:27 ` J. Bruce Fields [this message]
2010-02-02 4:05 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-02-02 5:23 ` Ron Garret
2010-02-02 5:43 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-02-02 21:07 ` tytso
2010-02-02 0:26 ` Junio C Hamano
2010-02-02 0:21 ` Junio C Hamano
2010-02-01 18:12 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-02-01 18:27 ` Jay Soffian
2010-02-01 22:34 ` Steve Diver
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-01-29 20:20 Ron1
2010-01-29 20:27 ` Jacob Helwig
2010-01-29 20:35 ` Sverre Rabbelier
2010-01-29 20:38 ` Jacob Helwig
2010-01-29 20:48 ` Junio C Hamano
2010-01-29 20:56 ` Sverre Rabbelier
2010-01-29 21:35 ` Junio C Hamano
2010-01-29 21:20 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-01-29 21:21 ` Sverre Rabbelier
2010-01-29 21:29 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-01-29 21:32 ` Sverre Rabbelier
2010-01-29 21:51 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-01-29 21:58 ` Junio C Hamano
2010-01-29 22:00 ` Sverre Rabbelier
2010-01-29 22:34 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-01-29 22:39 ` Junio C Hamano
2010-01-29 22:46 ` Jacob Helwig
2010-01-29 23:43 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-01-30 0:14 ` Junio C Hamano
2010-01-30 0:18 ` Sverre Rabbelier
2010-01-30 0:29 ` Junio C Hamano
2010-01-30 0:35 ` Sverre Rabbelier
2010-01-30 0:38 ` Michael Witten
2010-01-30 0:39 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-01-30 1:01 ` Mark Lodato
2010-01-30 1:22 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-01-30 2:38 ` Ron Garret
2010-01-30 2:59 ` Junio C Hamano
2010-01-30 3:26 ` Ron Garret
2010-01-30 4:03 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-01-30 5:06 ` Jay Soffian
2010-01-30 5:09 ` Junio C Hamano
2010-01-30 4:52 ` Jay Soffian
2010-01-30 5:15 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-01-30 5:21 ` Junio C Hamano
2010-01-30 6:25 ` Ron Garret
2010-01-30 18:25 ` Junio C Hamano
2010-01-30 5:45 ` Jay Soffian
2010-01-30 5:18 ` Junio C Hamano
2010-01-30 6:23 ` Ron Garret
2010-01-30 2:40 ` Mark Lodato
2010-01-30 3:11 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-01-30 3:59 ` Mark Lodato
2010-01-30 4:39 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-01-30 5:05 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-01-30 5:11 ` Jay Soffian
2010-01-30 5:25 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-01-30 5:53 ` Mark Lodato
2010-01-30 6:03 ` Junio C Hamano
2010-01-30 8:59 ` Jeff King
2010-01-30 18:40 ` Ron Garret
2010-01-29 23:16 ` A Large Angry SCM
2010-01-29 21:49 ` Junio C Hamano
2010-01-30 2:13 ` Johannes Schindelin
2010-01-30 3:15 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-01-29 20:35 ` Johannes Schindelin
2010-01-29 21:16 ` Ron1
2010-01-29 21:25 ` Jacob Helwig
2010-01-29 21:43 ` Ron Garret
2010-01-29 21:59 ` Junio C Hamano
2010-01-29 22:18 ` Ron Garret
2010-01-31 7:32 ` Junio C Hamano
2010-01-29 20:32 ` Octavio Alvarez
2010-01-29 21:34 ` Ron Garret
2010-01-29 22:32 ` Octavio Alvarez
2010-01-29 22:47 ` Ron Garret
2010-01-29 23:05 ` Octavio Alvarez
2010-01-29 23:12 ` Junio C Hamano
2010-01-29 23:30 ` Ron Garret
2010-01-29 23:28 ` Julian Phillips
2010-01-30 0:14 ` Ron Garret
2010-01-30 0:18 ` Ron Garret
2010-01-30 19:02 ` Junio C Hamano
2010-01-30 19:24 ` Ron Garret
2010-01-29 20:36 ` Scott R. Godin
2010-01-29 21:24 ` Ron Garret
2010-01-29 21:28 ` Sverre Rabbelier
2010-01-29 21:40 ` Ron Garret
2010-01-29 21:54 ` Junio C Hamano
2010-01-29 22:12 ` Ron Garret
2010-01-30 0:33 ` Michael Witten
2010-01-30 3:06 ` Junio C Hamano
2010-01-30 6:16 ` Ron Garret
2010-01-30 6:45 ` Junio C Hamano
2010-01-30 7:31 ` Ron Garret
2010-01-30 8:02 ` Junio C Hamano
2010-01-30 8:56 ` Ron Garret
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