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From: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
To: Ron Garret <ron1@flownet.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: master^ is not a local branch -- huh?!?
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 13:27:34 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100203182734.GA12551@fieldses.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ron1-9204BD.14042202022010@news.gmane.org>

On Tue, Feb 02, 2010 at 02:04:22PM -0800, Ron Garret wrote:
> In article <20100202191942.GB9628@fieldses.org>,
>  "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org> wrote:
> 
> > My memory is that I'd seen the word "branch" used for both meanings (a
> > linear piece of history, and a ref under ref/heads/), so figured we
> > needed terms for both.
> > 
> > But then I didn't really use that distinction anywhere.  On a quick skim
> > the only instance I can see of the first sense is in
> > http://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git-core/docs/user-manual.html#counting-com
> > mits-on-a-branch,
> > which could probably be reworded.
> > 
> > It still may be worth acknowledging the confusion; e.g., something like:
> > 
> > 	In the above diagram, "A", "B", and "master" are all references
> > 	to a point in history.  We call all three "branches".
> > 
> > 	Informally, the word "branch" is sometimes also used to the
> > 	entire line of development leading up to one of these points,
> > 	or, more generally, to any individual line of development.  But
> > 	when speaking about git, a "branch" (or "branch head") will
> > 	always be a reference to a point in history, and in particular a
> > 	reference which may be advanced to new commits by future
> > 	development.
> > 
> > Eh, I don't know if that's helpful; maybe that section could just be
> > deleted.  Or replaced by a more general discusion of the ref/ namespace.
> 
> FWIW, I find the above verbiage to to be very clear, much better than 
> what is there now.  You might also add that branches are almost exactly 
> the same as tags.  The only difference (AFAIK) is that tags get dragged 
> along by commits and resets and tags don't.

Might also be worth considering whether this:

	http://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git-core/docs/user-manual.html#how-git-stores-references

or some other general introduction to refs, should be moved to appear
earlier in the manual.

Apologies, though, I can't volunteer for now; if you'd like any of this
to happen, I'd recommend sending Junio patches.  (I'll try to read them
if you cc: me.)

--b.

  reply	other threads:[~2010-02-03 18:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 111+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-02-01 11:52 master^ is not a local branch -- huh?!? Steve Diver
2010-02-01 17:38 ` Junio C Hamano
2010-02-01 17:58   ` Sergei Organov
2010-02-01 22:52     ` Ron Garret
2010-02-01 23:01       ` Petr Baudis
2010-02-01 23:25       ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-02-01 23:37       ` Junio C Hamano
2010-02-01 23:56         ` Ron Garret
2010-02-02  0:15           ` Petr Baudis
2010-02-02  0:45             ` Ron Garret
2010-02-02  0:53               ` Junio C Hamano
2010-02-02  1:12                 ` Ron Garret
2010-02-02 19:19                   ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-02-02 22:04                     ` Ron Garret
2010-02-03 18:27                       ` J. Bruce Fields [this message]
2010-02-02  4:05               ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-02-02  5:23                 ` Ron Garret
2010-02-02  5:43                   ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-02-02 21:07                   ` tytso
2010-02-02  0:26           ` Junio C Hamano
2010-02-02  0:21       ` Junio C Hamano
2010-02-01 18:12   ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-02-01 18:27     ` Jay Soffian
2010-02-01 22:34     ` Steve Diver
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-01-29 20:20 Ron1
2010-01-29 20:27 ` Jacob Helwig
2010-01-29 20:35   ` Sverre Rabbelier
2010-01-29 20:38     ` Jacob Helwig
2010-01-29 20:48     ` Junio C Hamano
2010-01-29 20:56       ` Sverre Rabbelier
2010-01-29 21:35         ` Junio C Hamano
2010-01-29 21:20       ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-01-29 21:21         ` Sverre Rabbelier
2010-01-29 21:29           ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-01-29 21:32             ` Sverre Rabbelier
2010-01-29 21:51               ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-01-29 21:58                 ` Junio C Hamano
2010-01-29 22:00                   ` Sverre Rabbelier
2010-01-29 22:34                   ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-01-29 22:39                     ` Junio C Hamano
2010-01-29 22:46                       ` Jacob Helwig
2010-01-29 23:43                       ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-01-30  0:14                         ` Junio C Hamano
2010-01-30  0:18                           ` Sverre Rabbelier
2010-01-30  0:29                             ` Junio C Hamano
2010-01-30  0:35                               ` Sverre Rabbelier
2010-01-30  0:38                               ` Michael Witten
2010-01-30  0:39                               ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-01-30  1:01                               ` Mark Lodato
2010-01-30  1:22                                 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-01-30  2:38                                   ` Ron Garret
2010-01-30  2:59                                     ` Junio C Hamano
2010-01-30  3:26                                       ` Ron Garret
2010-01-30  4:03                                         ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-01-30  5:06                                           ` Jay Soffian
2010-01-30  5:09                                         ` Junio C Hamano
2010-01-30  4:52                                       ` Jay Soffian
2010-01-30  5:15                                         ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-01-30  5:21                                           ` Junio C Hamano
2010-01-30  6:25                                             ` Ron Garret
2010-01-30 18:25                                               ` Junio C Hamano
2010-01-30  5:45                                           ` Jay Soffian
2010-01-30  5:18                                         ` Junio C Hamano
2010-01-30  6:23                                         ` Ron Garret
2010-01-30  2:40                                   ` Mark Lodato
2010-01-30  3:11                                     ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-01-30  3:59                                       ` Mark Lodato
2010-01-30  4:39                                         ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-01-30  5:05                                           ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-01-30  5:11                                             ` Jay Soffian
2010-01-30  5:25                                               ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-01-30  5:53                                           ` Mark Lodato
2010-01-30  6:03                                           ` Junio C Hamano
2010-01-30  8:59                 ` Jeff King
2010-01-30 18:40                   ` Ron Garret
2010-01-29 23:16               ` A Large Angry SCM
2010-01-29 21:49         ` Junio C Hamano
2010-01-30  2:13         ` Johannes Schindelin
2010-01-30  3:15           ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-01-29 20:35   ` Johannes Schindelin
2010-01-29 21:16     ` Ron1
2010-01-29 21:25       ` Jacob Helwig
2010-01-29 21:43         ` Ron Garret
2010-01-29 21:59           ` Junio C Hamano
2010-01-29 22:18             ` Ron Garret
2010-01-31  7:32     ` Junio C Hamano
2010-01-29 20:32 ` Octavio Alvarez
2010-01-29 21:34   ` Ron Garret
2010-01-29 22:32     ` Octavio Alvarez
2010-01-29 22:47       ` Ron Garret
2010-01-29 23:05         ` Octavio Alvarez
2010-01-29 23:12         ` Junio C Hamano
2010-01-29 23:30           ` Ron Garret
2010-01-29 23:28         ` Julian Phillips
2010-01-30  0:14           ` Ron Garret
2010-01-30  0:18             ` Ron Garret
2010-01-30 19:02               ` Junio C Hamano
2010-01-30 19:24                 ` Ron Garret
2010-01-29 20:36 ` Scott R. Godin
2010-01-29 21:24   ` Ron Garret
2010-01-29 21:28     ` Sverre Rabbelier
2010-01-29 21:40       ` Ron Garret
2010-01-29 21:54       ` Junio C Hamano
2010-01-29 22:12         ` Ron Garret
2010-01-30  0:33           ` Michael Witten
2010-01-30  3:06             ` Junio C Hamano
2010-01-30  6:16               ` Ron Garret
2010-01-30  6:45                 ` Junio C Hamano
2010-01-30  7:31                   ` Ron Garret
2010-01-30  8:02                     ` Junio C Hamano
2010-01-30  8:56                       ` Ron Garret

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