From: Andreas Gruenbacher <agruen@suse.de>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: Michael J Gruber <git@drmicha.warpmail.net>, git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] Different views on a repository
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 01:45:33 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <201002260145.33960.agruen@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7vljeh9qcx.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org>
On Thursday 25 February 2010 18:28:46 Junio C Hamano wrote:
> Andreas Gruenbacher <agruen@suse.de> writes:
> > No, it's a server side thing.
>
> If it were a server side thing, then I would expect no change to
> send/receive pack.
>
> Instead your clients will access distinct URL as if they are different
> repositories.
>
> git clone git://example.com/pub/scm/git/A
> git push example.com:/pub/scm/git/B master
> git pull http://example.com/pub/scm/git/C
>
> They should not have to care that the server is cheating to save disk
> space, and they should be able to access your server with Git v1.6.0.
>
> Instead, the server side would:
>
> - have separate repositories, A, B and C, as normal repositories;
>
> - these repositories share their object stores by having their
> .git/objects pointing at a shared location via a symlink;
>
> - on the server side, gc/prune/fsck will have to be updated so that when
> the object store of a repository (say A) is shared with something else,
> they will consider refs in other repositories (B and C) also as the
> root of traversal.
I was proposing to change receive-pack and upload-pack, both of which are
running on the server; there was no mention of send-pack. What I've proposed
is not a complete solution, but it should suffice to show the idea.
Your alternative proposal would also solve my problem, in a different way.
With either approach, what looks like separate repositories A, B, and C to
clients looks like one repository to gc/prune/fsck.
> So if this were a server side solution, I would expect the series would
> add:
>
> - a way to set up a shared object store;
>
> - a way to maintain a list of backlinks to repositories that share an
> object store;
>
> - a way to create a new repository that shares the object store
> (e.g. create a symlink to the shared store instead of having its own
> .git/objects/, and add itself to the list of backlinks for the shared
> object store);
>
> - a way to retire an existing such repository (rm -rf and remove itself
> from the list of backlinks);
>
> - update gc/prune/fsck to honor such a list of backlinks.
>
> This would help a "forks" setup commonly seen at places like repo.or.cz
> and github.com among others.
Yes. I'm don't know how big a problem this is for those kinds of hosters; in
our case, it is a big problem.
> One thing that is missing from the above handwaving outline that your
> "different views" offers is a "consolidated view", a pseudo-repository
> that allows you to see refs from individual real (from the client's and
> project participant's point of view) repositories as if they are in
> individual subhierarchies of the ref namespace.
I have been talking about a repository and different subsets or views of that
repository; you call the former a consolidated view and the latter a
repository. Those are really just two sides of the same coin.
> I however suspect that you didn't want such a view in the first place if
> there weren't issues around reachability. In other words, I suspect that
> you invented it merely as one possible solution to the reachability issue,
> and it was not your goal to have such a consolidated view by itself.
I'm actually not sure. The "consolidated view" as you put it may be useful
all by itself; it would be a proper, self sufficient git repository -- a
really nice property. it may be too painful to maintain this view though.
When sharing objects across repositories, the worst-case scenario is that
something goes wrong with the backlinks. You will eventually lose objects,
but it may take a while until it happens and until you notice, with a lot of
damage. That's nasty.
A combination of the two approaches would be to "link forward" instead of
"linking back", so that the consolidated view would maintain itself, with a
server repo setup like this:
/repos/ABC:
objects
refs/tags/A/
refs/tags/B/
refs/heads/A/
refs/heads/B/
/repos/A:
refs/tags -> /repos/ABC/refs/tags/A/
refs/heads -> /repos/ABC/refs/heads/A/
objects -> /repos/ABC/objects/
/repos/B:
refs/tags -> /repos/ABC/refs/tags/B/
refs/heads -> /repos/ABC/refs/heads/B/
objects -> /repos/ABC/objects/
This could be made safe by not doing garbage collection if objects is a
symlink instead of a directory. (The ABC repo could be garbage collected as
usual.) Am I overlooking anything why this can't work?
Thanks,
Andreas
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-02-26 0:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-02-24 16:41 [RFC][PATCH 0/3] Different views on a repository Andreas Gruenbacher
2010-02-24 15:33 ` [PATCH 1/3] receive-pack: Two small code cleanups Andreas Gruenbacher
2010-02-24 15:57 ` [PATCH 2/3] Different views on a repository Andreas Gruenbacher
2010-02-24 16:14 ` [PATCH 3/3] Different views on a repository: HEAD mapping Andreas Gruenbacher
2010-02-24 17:42 ` [PATCH 2/3] Different views on a repository Shawn O. Pearce
2010-02-25 9:01 ` Michael J Gruber
2010-02-25 9:25 ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2010-02-25 12:30 ` Michael J Gruber
2010-02-25 14:35 ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2010-02-25 17:28 ` Junio C Hamano
2010-02-26 0:45 ` Andreas Gruenbacher [this message]
2010-02-26 21:35 ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2010-02-24 17:29 ` [PATCH 1/3] receive-pack: Two small code cleanups Shawn O. Pearce
2010-02-25 20:13 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/3] Different views on a repository James Pickens
2010-02-26 4:30 ` Adam Brewster
[not found] ` <c376da901002252012s507a6921q922e606bdce4b4fa@mail.gmail.com>
2010-02-26 12:01 ` Andreas Gruenbacher
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