From: tytso@mit.edu
To: Michael Witten <mfwitten@gmail.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>, git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: What's in a name? Let's use a (uuid,name,email) triplet
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 16:44:16 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100318204416.GM8256@thunk.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4ba27424.9804cc0a.4b1f.11b1@mx.google.com>
On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 11:42:44AM -0700, Michael Witten wrote:
> Could people still bungle the uuid or enter trash?
> Sure, but that's essentially no different than the
> current situation. This would be an improvement,
> because at least some people would take advantage
> of it; in fact, I bet most people would use it
> properly because:
>
> * The information required is easily remembered
> and reproduced; it has that emotional aspect.
>
> * People have an emotional attachment to getting
> proper attribution for their work, and this
> helps.
The problem is that people don't get emotionally attached to a UUID.
And even if the UUID is generated algorithmically, they need to
remember, gee, was my UUID generated using:
Theodore Y. Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>
Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>
Theodore T'so <tytso@valinux.com> (*)
Theodore Y Tso <theotso@us.ibm.com
Ted Tso <tytso@google.com>
Theodore Tso <tytso@google.com>
<etc.>
(*) The VA Linux folks screwed up where the apostrophe goes in some
press release, and the mispelling of my last name has followed me for
the last ten years since then.
More importantly, there's a lot more to someone's reputation than just
Git. What about reviews of other people's patches on LKML? Can you
**honestly** expect people to say,
Hi, I'm <dd1b51a1-ce2a-41fd-ae89-f68b7f0ace85> and here are the things
that you need to fix with your patch....
People who give thoughtful reviews of other people's code count for a
lot, and people are not going to track that sort of thing by UUID.
They are going to track it by name and e-mail address.
Or what about papers? Can you honestly expect that it would matter
even one iota if someone put in a bibliography of a paper
R. Card (14a8da4b-0231-497b-aa66-1809cc9727f9), T. Y. Ts'o
(dd1b51a1-ce2a-41fd-ae89-f68b7f0ace85), and S. Tweedie
(9052e458-32cc-11df-93b8-0016eb0fac40), "Design and implementation of
the second extended filesystem," in Proceedings of the 1994 Amsterdam
Linux Conference, 1994.
Is that going to contribute to my identity any? I don't think so.
Finally, if someone misses one of my commits in a git changelog, so
what? People don't guage impact by the number of commits. There are
some people who have huge numbers commits, but they are all spelling
corrections. A developer's reputation is developed over many months
or years of contributions; of interactions over e-mail; interactions
in hallway discussions at conferences; papers which they author; etc.
It's not just about git commits.
- Ted
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Thread overview: 104+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-03-18 13:23 What's in a name? Let's use a (uuid,name,email) triplet Michael Witten
2010-03-18 13:48 ` Jon Smirl
2010-03-18 14:26 ` Michael Witten
2010-03-18 17:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-18 19:02 ` Jon Smirl
2010-03-18 19:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-18 19:16 ` Jon Smirl
2010-03-18 19:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-18 19:37 ` Jon Smirl
2010-03-18 19:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-18 19:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-18 20:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-19 19:39 ` Junio C Hamano
2010-03-18 20:31 ` Reece Dunn
2010-03-18 20:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-18 19:32 ` Michael Witten
2010-03-18 19:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-18 19:47 ` Michael Witten
2010-03-18 19:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-18 20:00 ` Michael Witten
2010-03-18 19:52 ` Wincent Colaiuta
2010-03-18 19:40 ` Wincent Colaiuta
2010-03-18 19:42 ` Martin Langhoff
2010-03-18 22:36 ` Martin Langhoff
2010-03-18 23:17 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-03-18 23:26 ` Jon Smirl
2010-03-18 23:34 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-03-18 23:41 ` Jon Smirl
2010-03-18 23:58 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-03-19 0:16 ` Jon Smirl
2010-03-19 0:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-19 0:39 ` Jon Smirl
2010-03-19 0:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-19 1:12 ` Jon Smirl
2010-03-19 1:45 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-03-19 2:05 ` Jon Smirl
2010-03-18 23:34 ` Michael Witten
2010-03-18 18:42 ` Michael Witten
2010-03-18 18:47 ` Matthieu Moy
2010-03-18 18:57 ` Michael Witten
2010-03-18 19:12 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-03-18 20:44 ` tytso [this message]
2010-03-18 21:12 ` Michael Witten
2010-03-18 21:19 ` Martin Langhoff
2010-03-18 21:29 ` Michael Witten
2010-03-18 21:39 ` Martin Langhoff
2010-03-18 21:46 ` Michael Witten
2010-03-18 21:55 ` Martin Langhoff
2010-03-18 22:02 ` Michael Witten
2010-03-18 23:37 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-03-18 23:44 ` Michael Witten
2010-03-19 0:03 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-03-19 0:27 ` Michael Witten
2010-03-19 0:32 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-03-18 22:06 ` Reece Dunn
2010-03-18 21:57 ` Michael Witten
2010-03-19 12:34 ` Paolo Bonzini
2010-03-19 12:43 ` Michael Witten
2010-03-19 12:53 ` Paolo Bonzini
2010-03-19 13:03 ` Michael Witten
2010-03-19 13:08 ` Paolo Bonzini
2010-03-19 13:13 ` Michael Witten
2010-03-19 13:41 ` Wincent Colaiuta
2010-03-19 13:59 ` Michael Witten
2010-03-19 14:13 ` Martin Langhoff
2010-03-18 21:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-18 21:44 ` Michael Witten
2010-03-18 23:12 ` Jon Smirl
2010-03-18 22:17 ` A Large Angry SCM
2010-03-19 2:47 ` Sitaram Chamarty
2010-03-19 5:17 ` Nazri Ramliy
2010-03-19 8:41 ` Michael Haggerty
2010-03-19 11:39 ` Michael Witten
2010-03-19 11:45 ` david
2010-03-19 11:54 ` Mike Hommey
2010-03-19 12:09 ` Reece Dunn
2010-03-19 12:16 ` Michael Witten
2010-03-19 12:18 ` Michael Witten
2010-03-19 14:57 ` Reece Dunn
2010-03-19 15:26 ` Michael J Gruber
2010-03-19 16:05 ` david
2010-03-19 17:16 ` Michael Witten
2010-03-19 12:25 ` Jon Smirl
2010-03-19 12:40 ` Reece Dunn
2010-03-19 12:09 ` Michael Witten
2010-03-22 12:06 ` Mark Brown
2010-03-22 14:38 ` Michael Witten
2010-03-24 19:18 ` Erik Faye-Lund
2010-03-24 19:23 ` Michael Witten
2010-03-19 12:08 ` Michael Witten
2010-03-19 14:08 ` Michael Haggerty
2010-03-19 17:02 ` david
2010-03-19 17:06 ` Michael Witten
2010-03-24 18:50 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-19 14:08 ` Jakub Narebski
2010-03-19 14:33 ` Jon Smirl
2010-03-19 14:52 ` Michael J Gruber
2010-03-19 14:40 ` Michael Witten
2010-03-19 14:56 ` Erik Faye-Lund
2010-03-19 15:05 ` Michael Witten
2010-03-19 15:12 ` Michael Witten
2010-03-19 15:25 ` Erik Faye-Lund
2010-03-19 15:12 ` Reece Dunn
2010-03-20 0:21 ` Jakub Narebski
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