From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Ramkumar Ramachandra Subject: Re: Johannes misbehavior in the wiki, and a request for admin rights (was: wiki "abuse") Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 18:03:52 +0530 Message-ID: <20100810123349.GA3921@kytes> References: <4C613DFC.40006@drmicha.warpmail.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Felipe Contreras , Johannes Schindelin , John Hawley , git , Daniele Segato , Valeo de Vries , "Amir E. Aharoni" , Sverre Rabbelier To: Michael J Gruber X-From: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Tue Aug 10 14:36:05 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcvg-git-2@lo.gmane.org Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.132.180.67]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oio3o-0006UH-HH for gcvg-git-2@lo.gmane.org; Tue, 10 Aug 2010 14:36:04 +0200 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1757599Ab0HJMgA (ORCPT ); Tue, 10 Aug 2010 08:36:00 -0400 Received: from mail-pz0-f46.google.com ([209.85.210.46]:41902 "EHLO mail-pz0-f46.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1757403Ab0HJMf6 (ORCPT ); Tue, 10 Aug 2010 08:35:58 -0400 Received: by pzk26 with SMTP id 26so4039983pzk.19 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 2010 05:35:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:cc:subject :message-id:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition :in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=YVmUPtcKR/9vu0MyoadwsYa6Zhxe9fCkmIXLntC+iNw=; b=SaK35U21/w60UkdoiWEOgXF1KyiJgK0dCitBpmwDC8xxJaZznf3YGNy8JN/hg7iHcm 8IT4etkAJnl9uYAAbp8qWJMwXWbjudi5olqh3DZG+fX8Lyv0YveumPKYgh/wfx6Yxzil oeXnD9IG1hPSa8uRvvO7W3KBGbTtR1a/JHJJs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=rLunEm+5R0XXHnSzjbbF5IWln06mMYYM87BrjHOLYQCjUmnKEsOFuVhHH/Agse9/Zr nIPSBBLZYczYmlFKKmBluUzjjppmijIe9vDmqQCcge0VP8SPLgaBkEDtbwx0KMV5PMV5 aLb/5hbbCih0dRcc6lmmmooQknVkY8e1i12og= Received: by 10.142.203.2 with SMTP id a2mr799721wfg.313.1281443758096; Tue, 10 Aug 2010 05:35:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kytes ([203.110.240.41]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id x18sm7741243wfd.8.2010.08.10.05.35.52 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 10 Aug 2010 05:35:56 -0700 (PDT) Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4C613DFC.40006@drmicha.warpmail.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Archived-At: Hi Felipe, Michael, and Amir, Michael J Gruber writes: > Oh, pleaaaze, no (on the subject line). No need for more fuel in this topic. I agree with Michael. Please don't do this- it's quite distasteful. Johannes might have had a bad day and acted a little inappropriately, Amir might have done something to trigger it, or it might have been a combination of several other things. None of that justifies all the time we're wasting on this issue. > > I'd like to propose myself as sysop in order to make the wiki more > > hospitable. > [more detailed proposal cut out] > > Looking at the history of our wiki I don't see any need to overshoot as > a result of this mostly singular incident. It should suffice to > > - reactivate Amir's account > - make a clear statement about user pages (limit, discourage or disable) Right. There was ONE distrubing incident on a Wiki. Let's not blow it out of proportion and waste our time digging up dirt on one of our own contributors. As part of the community, let us take the reponsibility for this mistake and work towards becoming more friendly towards foreigners as a community. Michel has already suggested some quick steps to take to bury this discussion quickly- I'm in favor of doing it as soon as possible and personally seeing my inbox fill up with patches instead. Not at all to say that we should take the issue lightly, but I never thought we'd discuss it at this length. Amir: We as a community are sorry that you've been treated unfairly. Thanks for letting us know; we'll make sure that this doesn't happen with others in future. Thanks. -- Ram