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From: Jakub Narebski <jnareb@gmail.com>
To: Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton <luke.leighton@gmail.com>
Cc: "Ted Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>, Nicolas Pitre <nico@fluxnic.net>,
	Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: git pack/unpack over bittorrent - works!
Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2010 23:16:30 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201009042316.38655.jnareb@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimhCi2vWWnHGwT5ToRtFbjkxTgVYVvYLR3UCb2S@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Sep 4, 2010, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 9:20 PM, Jakub Narebski <jnareb@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Luke, you don't have to be peer-to-peer to be decentralized and
> > distributed.  People from what I understand bitch most about
> > centralized (and closed) services.
> 
> i've covered this in the FAQ i wrote:
> 
> FAQ:
> 
> Q: is git a "distributed source control system"?
> A: yeees, but the "distribution" part has to be done the hard way,
>    by setting up servers, forcing developers and users to configure
>    git to use those [single-point-of-failure] servers.  so it's
>    "more correct" to say that git is a "distributable" source control
>    system.
 
"Distributed" is not equivalent to "peer to peer".
 
> so if you believe that git is "distributed" just because people can
> set up a server.... mmm :)  i'd say that your administrative and
> technical skills are way above the average persons' capabilities.

Git is distributed at least in the sense that it is opposite
to centralized version control systems (like Subversion)
where you have and can have only single server with full repository.

Setting up server (git, smart HTTP, ssh) is not that hard.

> proper peer-to-peer networking infrastructure takes care of things
> like firewall-busting, by using UPnP automatically, as part of the
> infrastructure.

With "smart" HTTP transport support there is no need for any 
firewall-busting.
 
> come on, people - _think_.  we're so used to being able to run our own
> infrastructure and workaround problems or server down-time, but most
> people still use "winzip", if they have any kind of revision control
> _at all_.

In what way this paragraph refers to and is relewant with respect to
discussion in this subthread?

::plonk::
-- 
Jakub Narebski
Poland

  reply	other threads:[~2010-09-04 21:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 88+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-09-01 14:36 git pack/unpack over bittorrent - works! Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2010-09-01 22:04 ` Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
2010-09-02 13:37   ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2010-09-02 13:53     ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2010-09-02 14:08     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2010-09-02 15:33     ` A Large Angry SCM
2010-09-02 15:42       ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2010-09-02 15:51         ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2010-09-02 17:06           ` A Large Angry SCM
2010-09-02 15:58         ` Jeff King
2010-09-02 16:41           ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-09-02 17:09             ` A Large Angry SCM
2010-09-02 17:31               ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-09-02 19:17                 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2010-09-02 19:29                   ` Shawn O. Pearce
2010-09-02 19:51                     ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2010-09-02 20:06                     ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2010-09-03  0:36                       ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-09-03 10:34                         ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2010-09-03 17:03                         ` Junio C Hamano
2010-09-02 20:28                     ` Brandon Casey
2010-09-02 20:48                       ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2010-09-02 20:45                     ` Jakub Narebski
2010-09-02 21:10                       ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2010-09-02 21:19                         ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2010-09-03  0:29                         ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-09-03  2:48                           ` Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
2010-09-03 10:55                             ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2010-09-03 10:23                           ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2010-09-03 10:54                           ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2010-09-02 18:07           ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2010-09-02 18:23             ` Casey Dahlin
2010-09-02 16:58         ` A Large Angry SCM
2010-09-02 17:21         ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-09-02 19:41           ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2010-09-02 19:52             ` A Large Angry SCM
2010-09-02 23:09             ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-09-03 10:37               ` Theodore Tso
2010-09-03 11:04                 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2010-09-03 17:12                 ` Junio C Hamano
2010-09-03 18:31                   ` Ted Ts'o
2010-09-03 19:41                     ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-09-03 21:11                       ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2010-09-04  0:24                         ` Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
2010-09-04  0:57                           ` Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
2010-09-04  1:52                           ` Artur Skawina
2010-09-04  4:39                             ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-09-04  5:42                               ` Artur Skawina
2010-09-04  6:13                                 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-09-04 11:58                                   ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2010-09-04 13:14                                     ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2010-09-05  2:16                                       ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-09-05 18:05                                         ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2010-09-05 23:52                                           ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-09-06 13:23                                             ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2010-09-06 16:51                                               ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-09-06 22:33                                                 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2010-09-06 23:34                                                 ` Junio C Hamano
2010-09-06 23:57                                                   ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-09-07  0:17                                                     ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2010-09-07  0:29                                                     ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2010-09-04 13:42                                   ` Artur Skawina
     [not found]                                     ` <20100904155638.GA17606@pcpool00.mathematik.uni-freiburg.de>
2010-09-04 17:23                                       ` Artur Skawina
2010-09-04 18:46                                       ` Artur Skawina
2010-09-04  1:57                       ` Theodore Tso
2010-09-04  5:23                         ` Kyle Moffett
2010-09-04 11:46                           ` Theodore Tso
2010-09-04 14:06                           ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2010-09-05  1:32                             ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-09-05 17:16                               ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2010-09-04  5:40                         ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-09-04 12:00                           ` Theodore Tso
2010-09-04 12:44                             ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2010-09-04 14:50                             ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2010-09-04 18:14                               ` Ted Ts'o
2010-09-04 20:00                                 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2010-09-04 22:41                                   ` Ted Ts'o
2010-09-05 17:22                                     ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2010-09-04 20:20                                 ` Jakub Narebski
2010-09-04 20:47                                   ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2010-09-04 21:16                                     ` Jakub Narebski [this message]
2010-09-04 21:24                                       ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2010-09-04 22:47                                     ` Ted Ts'o
2010-09-05  1:43                                       ` Tomas Carnecky
2010-09-05  1:18                             ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-09-05 17:25                               ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2010-09-06  0:05                                 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-09-04 12:33                           ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton

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