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From: Thomas Rast <trast@student.ethz.ch>
To: <avarab@gmail.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, "Junio C Hamano" <gitster@pobox.com>,
	"Jan Krüger" <jk@jk.gs>, "Sam Reed" <sam@reedyboy.net>,
	"Jeff King" <peff@peff.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] po/de.po: add German translation
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 17:41:27 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201009061741.27840.trast@student.ethz.ch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4c8197ab.1707e30a.3f10.714a@mx.google.com>

Hi Jan

First off thanks for taking on the mammoth job of translating this.  I
skimmed the entire file, and apart from the comments below everything
looks sane, though I may of course have missed something.

I already like the translation way better than the one that
gitk/git-gui have, because it doesn't try so hard to translate *every*
term.  Maybe it would help to make a little translation glossary,
here's a start:

  bare repository       Lager-Repository
  blob object           Blob-Objekt
  branch                Branch (m.)
  checkout              auschecken
  commit                Commit/committen
  commit object         Commit-Objekt
  dangling ...          ... zeigt ins Leere
  detached HEAD         von HEAD abgetrennt  [but see below]
  directory             Verzeichnis
  fast-forward          Update ohne Merge
  fetch                 holen
  file system           Dateisystem
  index                 Index
  merge                 Merge
  object                Objekt
  origin                Ursprung
  parent                [unused, but would be interesting]
  pull                  [dito]
  push                  push [though only used as the command name so far]
  reference             Referenz
  reflog                Reflog
  refspec               Refspec
  repository            Repository
  resolve               auflösen
  revision              Revision
  tag                   Tag
  tracking branch       ... verfolgt ...
  tree                  Tree
  unmerged              verbleibende Konflikte
  upstream branch       Ursprung [note collision with "origin"]
  working tree          Arbeitsverzeichnis

As I said, I agree with the general idea of leaving certain terms
untranslated.  You said on IRC that you left all English terms that
are also used on

  http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Versionskontrolle

which seems a sound rule.  In any case it roughly matches (or still
stays slightly on the more-German side of) the colloquial usage in my
group, if that is any indication.

avarab@gmail.com wrote:
> +#, c-format
> +msgid "nothing added to commit but untracked files present%s\n"
> +msgstr "keine Änderungen für den Commit vorgemerkt, aber unberücksichtigte Dateien vorhanden\n"

Loses the %s (which is used for advice).

> +#, c-format
> +msgid "unexpected diff status %c"
> +msgstr "unerwarteter Diff-Status %s"

Changes the format type.

[way earlier, and same goes for "by us" -> "hier" [lit. "here"]]
> +msgid "deleted by them:"
> +msgstr "dort gelöscht:"
[lit. "deleted there"]
> +
[...]
> +#, c-format
> +msgid "behind %d] "
> +msgstr "nur dort %d] "
[lit. "only there"]

This had me pause for a moment.  The concepts of "[merge side] theirs"
and "behind" are quite different; is it a good idea to translate these
to the same?

Especially so since later on you translate

> +#, c-format
> +msgid "path '%s' does not have our version"
> +msgstr "Pfad '%s' hat keine Version 'von uns' im Index"
[lit. "... 'of us' ..."]

I do agree that the best I can come up with, "von den anderen
gelöscht", would be quite awkward.

> +msgid "You are on a branch yet to be born"
> +msgstr "Der aktive Branch ist noch nicht angelegt"

ISTR you asked about this on IRC, very nice solution.

> +msgid "--patch is incompatible with all other options"
> +msgstr "--patch verträgt sich nicht mit allen anderen Optionen"

Nit: "... den restlichen Optionen" would be less ambiguous as to how
many of them you can give until it conflicts with --patch.

> +#, c-format
> +msgid "Remote branch %s not found in upstream %s, using HEAD instead"
> +msgstr ""
> +"Remote-branch %s nicht in Ursprung %s gefunden, benutze stattdessen HEAD"
["Ursprung" is literally "origin"]

This also has a slight danger of confusion with the canonical upstream
'origin'.

> +#, c-format
> +msgid ""
> +" Lines starting\n"
> +"# with '#' will be kept; you may remove them yourself if you want to.\n"
> +"# An empty message aborts the commit.\n"
> +msgstr ""
> +" Zeilen, die mit '#'\n"
> +"# anfangen, werden beibehalten; du kannst sie selbst entfernen, wenn du\n"
> +"willst. Ein leerer Kommentar bricht den Commit ab.\n"

The last line lacks a #.

> +msgid "Explicit paths specified without -i nor -o; assuming --only paths..."
> +msgstr ""
> +"Pfade angegeben ohne ausdrückliches -i oder -o angegeben, ich nehme -o an..."

There's a stray "angegeben".

> +# FIXME: ich hab keine Ahnung, worum es hier geht
> +#, c-format
> +msgid "'%s': short read %s"
> +msgstr "'%s': short read %s"

Judging from the code, the file size changed between lstat() and
read_in_full(), and/or read() failed to read the end of the file.
Maybe "unvollständig gelesen".

> +msgid "You cannot combine --no-ff with --ff-only."
> +msgstr "Du kannst --no-ff nicht mit --ff-only kombinieren (wirklich wahr)."

:-)

> +#, c-format
> +msgid "%s - not something we can merge"
> +msgstr "%s ist etwas, das wir nicht mergen können"

That's the message you get if you say "git merge nonexistent" in an
unborn branch, so the implication (in the German version) that %s
exists is not accurate.  Maybe "Ich kann mit %s nichts anfangen" or
"%s taugt nicht für einen Merge"?

> +msgid "Fast-forward"
> +msgstr "Update ohne Merge"

Clever!

> +#, c-format
> +msgid "Pushing to %s\n"
> +msgstr "Übertrag zu %s\n"

"Übertrage"?

[probably out of order, I found it while compiling the glossary]
> +msgid "detached HEAD"
> +msgstr "von HEAD abgetrennt"

That's not strictly speaking true; HEAD always points to a commit
except in an unborn branch, and in any case (this is from commit.c)
points to a commit after this message is output.  You could try
"abgetrennter HEAD", "entkoppelter HEAD" or so...

-- 
Thomas Rast
trast@{inf,student}.ethz.ch

  reply	other threads:[~2010-09-06 15:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-09-03 18:22 [GIT PULL] New ab/i18n series and builtin fixes Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2010-09-03 23:24 ` [PATCH 0/3] ab/i18n: README and GETTEXT_POISON support Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2010-09-03 23:24 ` [PATCH 1/3] gettext: Add po/README file documenting Git's gettext Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2010-09-03 23:24 ` [PATCH 2/3] gettext: Add GETTEXT_POISON=YesPlease Makefile parameter Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2010-09-03 23:24 ` [PATCH 3/3] gettext: add NO_GETTEXT_POISON prerequisite to tests Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2010-09-03 23:41   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2010-09-04  0:49 ` [PATCH 0/2] [PULL] ab/i18n-gettextize & translations avarab
2010-09-04  0:49 ` [PATCH 1/2] po/de.po: add German translation avarab
2010-09-06 15:41   ` Thomas Rast [this message]
2010-09-06 16:09     ` Jan Krüger
2010-09-06 17:06       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2010-09-06 16:24     ` Jens Lehmann
2010-09-06 19:58       ` Tilo Schwarz
2010-09-06 17:15     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2010-09-04  0:49 ` [PATCH 2/2] po/en_GB.po: add British English Translation avarab
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-09-15  7:33 [PATCH 1/2] po/de.po: add German translation Christian Stimming
2010-09-15  9:47 ` Thomas Rast
2010-09-15 11:51   ` Michael J Gruber
2010-09-15 11:10 ` Michael J Gruber
2010-09-15 16:54   ` Andreas Schwab
2010-09-15 11:44 ` Thomas Hochstein
2010-09-16 10:57 ` Jan Krüger
2010-09-16 11:09   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2010-09-16 11:29     ` Jens Lehmann
2010-09-16 11:51       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2010-09-16 14:52       ` Junio C Hamano
2010-09-16 15:05         ` Jens Lehmann
2010-09-16 11:51   ` Michael J Gruber
2010-09-16 16:48     ` Jan Krüger
2010-09-17  7:23       ` Michael J Gruber

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