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From: Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: Matthieu Moy <Matthieu.Moy@imag.fr>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, Thore Husfeldt <thore.husfeldt@gmail.com>,
	Jakub Narebski <jnareb@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/10] Better "Changed but not updated" message in git-status
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2010 17:09:56 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101028220956.GC16125@burratino> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7vaaly9eji.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org>

Junio C Hamano wrote:
> Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com> writes:

>>  # Changes to be committed:
>>  #   (use "git reset HEAD <file>..." to unstage)
>>  #
>>  #       new file:   foo.c
>>  #
>>  # Changes not staged for commit:
[...]
> Hmm, perhaps we'd want to restate the first one as well to read
> 
>     Changes staged for commit:
>       (use "git reset HEAD <path>..." to unstage)
> 
> for consistency as well?

My first impression is no.  Since the main purpose of this text is to
be shown by "git commit", it might even make sense to say:

# Changes to be committed:
#   (use "git reset -- <path>..." to unstage)
#
#	new file:    foo.c
#
# Changes not to be committed:
#   (use "git add <path>..." to update what will be committed)
#   (use "git checkout -- <path>..." to discard changes in working
#   directory)
#
#	typechange:  bar.c

> Listing by filename gives a false impression that we are talking about the
> whole file contents, and looks a bit confusing until it is explained to
> you why when the same file appears in both of the first two sections.

Iould be nice if the "staged changes" section gave a hint that there
were unstaged changes present.  Maybe something like the
"unsaved file" indicator used by some text editors:

	new file:    foo.c*

> I've been wondering ever since this thread started if we can phrase it
> better to make it even less confusing.  E.g.
> 
>     Files with changes to be committed:
>         new file: foo.c
>     Files with changes that won't be committed:
>         modified: foo.c
> 
> might help reduce the confusion.

I fear that it can be misparsed as (Files with changes) to be committed.
More importantly, I think Matthieu was right earlier: it is not the
files but the changes that matter.

So when changing a file and marking it executable, I would even like to
see:

	modified:    foo.c
	mode change: foo.c

even if that is not what git does today.

  reply	other threads:[~2010-10-28 22:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 102+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-10-23 16:31 [PATCH 00/11] More consistant terminology ("remote-tracking branch", "not updated") Matthieu Moy
2010-10-23 16:31 ` [PATCH 01/10] Better "Changed but not updated" message in git-status Matthieu Moy
2010-10-23 18:13   ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-10-23 18:33     ` Matthieu Moy
2010-10-23 18:55     ` Jakub Narebski
2010-10-23 16:31 ` [PATCH 02/10] Remplace "remote tracking" with "remote-tracking" Matthieu Moy
2010-10-23 18:16   ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-10-23 18:31   ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-10-23 19:01     ` Matthieu Moy
2010-10-23 16:31 ` [PATCH 03/10] Change remote tracking to remote-tracking in non-trivial places Matthieu Moy
2010-10-23 18:44   ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-10-23 19:04     ` Matthieu Moy
2010-10-23 16:31 ` [PATCH 04/10] Change "tracking branch" to "remote-tracking branch" Matthieu Moy
2010-10-23 18:48   ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-10-28  1:55     ` Matthieu Moy
2010-10-23 16:31 ` [PATCH 05/10] Change "tracking branch" to "remote-tracking branch" in C code Matthieu Moy
2010-10-23 18:51   ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-10-26 22:15     ` Matthieu Moy
2010-10-23 16:31 ` [PATCH 06/10] Change incorrect uses of "remote branch" meaning "remote-tracking" Matthieu Moy
2010-10-23 16:31 ` [PATCH 07/10] Change incorrect "remote branch" to "remote tracking branch" in C code Matthieu Moy
2010-10-23 18:58   ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-10-23 19:19     ` Matthieu Moy
2010-10-23 16:31 ` [PATCH 08/10] Use 'remote-tracking branch' in generated merge messages Matthieu Moy
2010-10-23 19:04   ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-10-23 19:53     ` Matthieu Moy
2010-10-23 16:31 ` [PATCH 09/10] user-manual.txt: explain better the remote(-tracking) branch terms Matthieu Moy
2010-10-23 19:08   ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-10-23 19:34     ` Matthieu Moy
2010-10-24 14:47   ` Thore Husfeldt
2010-10-24 15:18     ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-10-24 23:32     ` Jakub Narebski
2010-10-26  3:11     ` Matthieu Moy
2010-10-26  4:16       ` Miles Bader
2010-10-23 16:31 ` [PATCH 10/10] git-branch.txt: mention --set-upstream as a way to change upstream configuration Matthieu Moy
2010-10-23 18:55 ` [PATCH 00/11] More consistant terminology ("remote-tracking branch", "not updated") Jakub Narebski
2010-10-23 19:11   ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-10-25 17:30     ` Matthieu Moy
2010-10-25  6:08 ` [PATCH v2 00/10] " Matthieu Moy
2010-10-25  6:08 ` [PATCH 01/10] Better "Changed but not updated" message in git-status Matthieu Moy
2010-10-25  6:08 ` [PATCH 02/10] Replace "remote tracking" with "remote-tracking" Matthieu Moy
2010-10-25  6:08 ` [PATCH 03/10] Change remote tracking to remote-tracking in non-trivial places Matthieu Moy
2010-10-25  6:08 ` [PATCH 04/10] Change "tracking branch" to "remote-tracking branch" Matthieu Moy
2010-10-25  6:08 ` [PATCH 05/10] Change "tracking branch" to "remote-tracking branch" in C code Matthieu Moy
2010-10-25  6:08 ` [PATCH 06/10] Change incorrect uses of "remote branch" meaning "remote-tracking" Matthieu Moy
2010-10-25  6:08 ` [PATCH 07/10] Change incorrect "remote branch" to "remote tracking branch" in C code Matthieu Moy
2010-10-25  6:08 ` [PATCH 08/10] Use 'remote-tracking branch' in generated merge messages Matthieu Moy
2010-10-25  6:08 ` [PATCH 09/10] user-manual.txt: explain better the remote(-tracking) branch terms Matthieu Moy
2010-10-26  6:07   ` Jay Soffian
2010-10-26 22:13     ` Matthieu Moy
2010-10-26  6:20   ` Jay Soffian
2010-10-27  0:01     ` Matthieu Moy
2010-10-27  0:06       ` [PATCH] " Matthieu Moy
2010-10-25  6:08 ` [PATCH 10/10] git-branch.txt: mention --set-upstream as a way to change upstream configuration Matthieu Moy
2010-10-25 17:52 ` [PATCH 00/11] More consistant terminology ("remote-tracking branch", "not updated") Drew Northup
2010-10-28 18:21 ` [PATCH 00/10 v3] " Matthieu Moy
2010-10-28 18:21 ` [PATCH 01/10] Better "Changed but not updated" message in git-status Matthieu Moy
2010-10-28 18:35   ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-10-28 21:46     ` Junio C Hamano
2010-10-28 22:09       ` Jonathan Nieder [this message]
2010-10-28 22:47         ` Matthieu Moy
2010-10-28 23:20           ` Junio C Hamano
2010-10-28 23:39             ` Matthieu Moy
2010-10-29 21:06         ` Drew Northup
2010-10-30  4:00           ` Matthieu Moy
2010-10-28 18:21 ` [PATCH 02/10] Replace "remote tracking" with "remote-tracking" Matthieu Moy
2010-10-28 19:52   ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-10-28 18:21 ` [PATCH 03/10] Change remote tracking to remote-tracking in non-trivial places Matthieu Moy
2010-10-28 18:39   ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-10-28 21:50     ` Matthieu Moy
2010-10-28 22:13       ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-10-28 22:40         ` Matthieu Moy
2010-10-29 17:26           ` Drew Northup
2010-10-28 18:21 ` [PATCH 04/10] Change "tracking branch" to "remote-tracking branch" Matthieu Moy
2010-10-28 19:56   ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-10-28 18:21 ` [PATCH 05/10] Change incorrect uses of "remote branch" meaning "remote-tracking" Matthieu Moy
2010-10-28 18:21 ` [PATCH 06/10] Change incorrect "remote branch" to "remote tracking branch" in C code Matthieu Moy
2010-10-28 19:13   ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-10-28 22:34     ` Matthieu Moy
2010-10-28 23:23       ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-10-28 18:21 ` [PATCH 07/10] Use 'remote-tracking branch' in generated merge messages Matthieu Moy
2010-10-28 18:21 ` [PATCH 08/10] user-manual.txt: explain better the remote(-tracking) branch terms Matthieu Moy
2010-10-28 19:42   ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-10-28 23:40     ` Matthieu Moy
2010-10-28 18:21 ` [PATCH 09/10] user-manual: remote-tracking can be checked out, with detached HEAD Matthieu Moy
2010-10-28 18:21 ` [PATCH 10/10] git-branch.txt: mention --set-upstream as a way to change upstream configuration Matthieu Moy
2010-10-28 20:08   ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-10-30  4:10 ` [PATCH 00/11 v4] More consistant terminology Matthieu Moy
2010-10-30  6:58   ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-10-30  4:10 ` [PATCH 01/11] Better "Changed but not updated" message in git-status Matthieu Moy
2010-10-30  4:10 ` [PATCH 02/11] Replace "remote tracking" with "remote-tracking" Matthieu Moy
2010-10-30  4:10 ` [PATCH 03/11] Change remote tracking to remote-tracking in non-trivial places Matthieu Moy
2010-10-30  4:10 ` [PATCH 04/11] everyday.txt: change "tracking branch" to "remote-tracking branch" Matthieu Moy
2010-10-30  4:10 ` [PATCH 05/11] Change " Matthieu Moy
2010-10-30  4:10 ` [PATCH 06/11] Change incorrect uses of "remote branch" meaning "remote-tracking" Matthieu Moy
2010-10-30  4:10 ` [PATCH 07/11] Change incorrect "remote branch" to "remote tracking branch" in C code Matthieu Moy
2010-10-30  4:10 ` [PATCH 08/11] Use 'remote-tracking branch' in generated merge messages Matthieu Moy
2010-10-30  4:10 ` [PATCH 09/11] user-manual.txt: explain better the remote(-tracking) branch terms Matthieu Moy
2010-10-30  7:18   ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-10-31 14:57     ` Matthieu Moy
2010-10-30  4:10 ` [PATCH 10/11] user-manual: remote-tracking can be checked out, with detached HEAD Matthieu Moy
2010-10-30  4:10 ` [PATCH 11/11] git-branch.txt: mention --set-upstream as a way to change upstream configuration Matthieu Moy
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-11-02 15:31 [PATCH 00/10 v4] More consistant terminology Matthieu Moy
2010-11-02 15:31 ` [PATCH 01/10] Better "Changed but not updated" message in git-status Matthieu Moy

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