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From: Jakub Narebski <jnareb@gmail.com>
To: Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, "J.H." <warthog9@eaglescrag.net>,
	John 'Warthog9' Hawley <warthog9@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v7 1/9] gitweb: Go to DONE_REQUEST rather than DONE_GITWEB in die_error
Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2010 23:25:50 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201012262325.51585.jnareb@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20101226095054.GB21588@burratino>

On Sun, 26 Dec 2010, Jonathan Nieder wrote:
> Jakub Narebski wrote:
>> On Thu, 23 Dec 2010, Jonathan Nieder wrote:
 
>>> die_error gets called when server load is too high; I wonder whether
>>> it is right to go back for another request in that case.
>>
>> If client (web browser) are requesting connection, we have to tell it
>> something anyway.
> 
> Right, I should have thought a few seconds more.  Respawning
> gitweb.perl would generate _more_ load[1].

> [1] I can imagine scenarios in which exiting gitweb would help
> alleviate the load, involving:
> 
>  - large memory footprint for each gitweb process forcing the system
>    into swapping (e.g., from a memory leak), or
>  - FastCGI-like server noticing the load and choosing to decrease the
>    number of gitweb instances.
> 
> In the usual case, presumably gitweb memory footprint is small and
> FastCGI-like servers limit the number of gitweb instances to a modest
> fixed number.

I assume that CGI / FastCGI / mod_perl (+ ModPerl::Registry) web server
would know how to regulate number of workers according to the server
load.
 
>>> A broken per-request (or other) configuration could potentially leave
>>> a gitweb process in a broken state,
> [...]
>> 'die $@ if $@' would call CORE::die, which means it would end gitweb
>> process.
> 
> This is referring to a later patch?

I'm sorry I haven't made myself clear.

What I meant here is that gitweb includes the following code

	if (-e $GITWEB_CONFIG) {
		do $GITWEB_CONFIG;
		die $@ if $@;
	}

which means that CGI::Carp::die is called, which might call 
handle_errors_html, and which ends in CORE::die, which ends gitweb
process.  So if there is no way for broken configuration to leave
gitweb in a rboken state _at this point in series_.

Thank you for thinking about this, because it could cause problems
(could because I have not checked if it does or if it doesn't) in the
following patch, when gitweb uses eval / die for error handling.
Then it might happen when $per_request_config is false or CODE that
instead of trying to reread broken config on subsequent requests, we
will run with broken config.  It depends if "die"-ing in 
evaluate_gitweb_config would prevent setting $first_request to false.
I'd have to check that.

>> For CGI server it doesn't matter anyway, as for each request the process
>> is respawned anyway (together with respawning Perl interpreter), and I
>> think that ModPerl::Registry and FastCGI servers monitor process that it
>> is to serve requests, and respawn it if/when it dies.
> 
> Sorry, that was unclear of me.  I meant that buggy configuration could
> leave a gitweb process in buggy but alive state and frequent failing
> requests might be a way to notice that.  Contrived example (just to
> illustrate what I mean):
> 
> 	our $version .= ".custom";
> 	if (length $version>= 1000) {	# untested, buggy code goes here.
> 		@diff_opts = ("--nonsense");
> 	}
> 
> I think I was not right to worry about this, either.  It is better to
> make such unusual and buggy configurations as noticeable as possible
> so they can be fixed.

See above.

> [...]
>> But actually handle_errors_html gets called only from fatalsToBrowser,
>> which in turn gets called from CGI::Carp::die... which ends calling
>> CODE::die (aka realdie), which ends CGI process anyway.
>>
>> That is why die_error ends with
>> 
>>	goto DONE_GITWEB
>>		unless ($opts{'-error_handler'});
>> 
>> i.e. it doesn't goto DONE_GITWEB nor DONE_REQUEST if called from
>> handle_errors_html anyway.
> [...]
>> Thanks a lot for your comments.

Which should make it in either commit message, or comments, I guess.
 
> Thanks for a thorough explanation.  For what it's worth, with or
> without removal of the DONE_GITWEB: label,
> 
> Reviewed-by: Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com>

Thanks.

-- 
Jakub Narebski
Poland

  reply	other threads:[~2010-12-26 22:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-12-22 23:54 [RFC PATCH v7 0/9] gitweb: Output caching, with eval/die based error handling Jakub Narebski
2010-12-22 23:55 ` [RFC PATCH v7 1/9] gitweb: Go to DONE_REQUEST rather than DONE_GITWEB in die_error Jakub Narebski
2010-12-23  1:55   ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-12-25 22:14     ` Jakub Narebski
2010-12-26  9:07       ` [RFC/PATCH] diff: funcname and word patterns for perl Jonathan Nieder
     [not found]         ` <201012261143.33190.trast@student.ethz.ch>
2010-12-26 10:54           ` Jonathan Nieder
     [not found]             ` <201012261206.11942.trast@student.ethz.ch>
2010-12-26 11:22               ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-12-26 23:14         ` Jakub Narebski
2010-12-27 17:18           ` Junio C Hamano
2010-12-27 22:44             ` Jakub Narebski
2010-12-28  3:52             ` Jeff King
2010-12-26  9:50       ` [RFC PATCH v7 1/9] gitweb: Go to DONE_REQUEST rather than DONE_GITWEB in die_error Jonathan Nieder
2010-12-26 22:25         ` Jakub Narebski [this message]
2010-12-22 23:55 ` [RFC PATCH v7 2/9] gitweb: use eval + die for error (exception) handling Jakub Narebski
2010-12-23  2:08   ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-12-25 23:17     ` Jakub Narebski
2011-01-04  0:35   ` [RFC PATCH v7 2.5/9] gitweb: Make die_error just die, and use send_error to create error pages Jakub Narebski
2010-12-22 23:55 ` [RFC PATCH v7 3/9] gitweb: Introduce %actions_info, gathering information about actions Jakub Narebski
2010-12-22 23:56 ` [RFC PATCH v7 4/9] gitweb: Prepare for splitting gitweb Jakub Narebski
2010-12-24  9:29   ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-12-26 22:54     ` Jakub Narebski
2010-12-22 23:56 ` [RFC PATCH v7 5/9] t/test-lib.sh: Export also GIT_BUILD_DIR in test_external Jakub Narebski
2010-12-22 23:57 ` [RFC PATCH v7 6/9] gitweb/lib - Simple output capture by redirecting STDOUT to file Jakub Narebski
2010-12-24  9:49   ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-12-26 23:03     ` Jakub Narebski
2010-12-22 23:57 ` [RFC PATCH v7 7/9] gitweb/lib - Very simple file based cache Jakub Narebski
2010-12-22 23:57 ` [RFC PATCH v7 8/9] gitweb/lib - Cache captured output (using compute_fh) Jakub Narebski
2010-12-22 23:58 ` [RFC PATCH v7 9/9] gitweb: Add optional output caching Jakub Narebski
2010-12-31 18:03 ` [RFC PATCH v7 10/9] gitweb: Background cache generation and progress indicator Jakub Narebski
2011-01-03 21:33 ` [RFC PATCH v7 11/9] [PoC] gitweb/lib - tee, i.e. print and capture during cache entry generation Jakub Narebski
2011-01-03 23:31   ` J.H.
2011-01-04  0:28     ` Jakub Narebski
2011-01-04 13:20       ` Jakub Narebski
2011-01-05  2:26 ` [RFC PATCH 11/9] [PoC] gitweb/lib - HTTP-aware output caching Jakub Narebski

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