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From: Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH/RFC] reflog: silence -O3 -Wuninitialized warning
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 01:28:48 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110316062831.GA5252@elie> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7vfwqnabbi.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org>

Junio C Hamano wrote:

> We could obviously do (2) or (3), but the thing is, I don't think we can
> have much confidence on -Wuninitialized warnings from this compiler once
> we go down that route.  Is it _guaranteed_ that the compiler bug _always_
> err on the false-positive side?
>
> IOW, I'd very much prefer (1) for this particular case and if somebody
> really cares (2).

*nod*.  The tricky heuristics here are that (A) a call to the function

 extern void foo(int *var);

is assumed to initialize *var (to support idioms like strbuf_init), while
(B) no assumption is made about the return value of a call to the function

 extern int bar(void);

The assumption (B) is the scourge of -Wuninitialized users.  It is
always going produce a lot of false positives --- the compiler simply
doesn't have enough information to completely analyze the flow through
a function.  (Even if it did have enough information, completely
solving the problem is Turing-complete.)

Problems from (A) are more rare.  -Wuninitialized will produce _some_
false negatives, but problems it misses would typically be due to
failure to check for errors and return early, which is not what
-Wuninitialized is about.

I don't mind the warning, especially since it only appears with -O3.
What makes this interesting to me is that it is a reminder that the
compiler has very little information about the flow of control.  A
simple

 #define error(...) (report_error(__VA_ARGS__), -1)

could open the door to some nice micro-optimizations.

  reply	other threads:[~2011-03-16  6:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-03-16  2:49 [PATCH/RFC] reflog: silence -O3 -Wuninitialized warning Jonathan Nieder
2011-03-16  3:42 ` [PATCH nd/struct-pathspec] declare 1-bit bitfields to be unsigned Jonathan Nieder
2011-03-16  5:38   ` Junio C Hamano
2011-03-16 14:20   ` Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
2011-03-16  5:22 ` [PATCH/RFC] reflog: silence -O3 -Wuninitialized warning Junio C Hamano
2011-03-16  6:28   ` Jonathan Nieder [this message]
2011-03-16  9:09   ` Johannes Sixt
2011-03-16  9:47     ` Jonathan Nieder
2011-03-16  9:54       ` Johannes Sixt
2011-03-16 10:57         ` Jonathan Nieder
2011-03-16 11:35           ` [RFC/PATCH 0/6] silence -Wuninitialized warnings that previously used the a = a trick Jonathan Nieder
2011-03-16 11:36             ` [PATCH 1/6] match-trees: kill off remaining -Wuninitialized warning Jonathan Nieder
2011-03-16 11:36             ` [PATCH 2/6] run-command: initialize failed_errno to 0 Jonathan Nieder
2011-03-16 11:37             ` [PATCH 3/6] diff --submodule: suppress -Wuninitialized warning by initializing to NULL Jonathan Nieder
2011-03-16 11:37             ` [PATCH 4/6] rsync transport: clarify insert_packed_refs Jonathan Nieder
2011-03-16 11:37             ` [PATCH 5/6] wt-status: protect against invalid change_type Jonathan Nieder
2011-03-16 11:38             ` [PATCH 6/6] fast-import: suppress -Wuninitialized warning by initializing to NULL Jonathan Nieder
2011-03-16  6:53 ` [PATCH 0/8] more warnings and cleanups Jonathan Nieder
2011-03-16  6:59   ` [PATCH 1/8] enums: omit trailing comma for portability Jonathan Nieder
2011-03-16  7:00   ` [PATCH 2/8] compat: make gcc bswap an inline function Jonathan Nieder
2011-03-16  9:21     ` Johannes Sixt
2011-03-16  9:31       ` Jonathan Nieder
2011-03-16 19:44         ` Junio C Hamano
2011-03-16  7:01   ` [PATCH 3/8] svn-fe: do not use "return" for tail call returning void Jonathan Nieder
2011-03-16  7:02   ` [PATCH 4/8] vcs-svn: remove spurious semicolons Jonathan Nieder
2011-03-16 19:47     ` Junio C Hamano
2011-03-16 20:03       ` Jonathan Nieder
2011-03-16  7:08   ` [PATCH 5/8] standardize brace placement in struct definitions Jonathan Nieder
2011-03-18  7:25     ` Junio C Hamano
2011-03-16  7:10   ` [PATCH 6/8] branch: split off function that writes tracking info and commit subject Jonathan Nieder
2011-03-16  7:12   ` [PATCH 7/8] cherry: split off function to print output lines Jonathan Nieder
2011-03-16  7:14   ` [PATCH 8/8] diff --submodule: split into bite-sized pieces Jonathan Nieder
2011-03-16 18:43     ` Jens Lehmann
2011-03-16 19:33       ` Jonathan Nieder

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