From: Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com>
To: Jon Seymour <jon.seymour@gmail.com>
Cc: Andreas Ericsson <ae@op5.se>, Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
Joey Hess <joey@kitenet.net>,
Git Mailing List <git@vger.kernel.org>,
david@lang.hm, Pau Garcia i Quiles <pgquiles@elpauer.org>
Subject: Re: RFC: a plugin architecture for git extensions?
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 06:11:54 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110428111154.GA1433@elie> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTikKp9-uFGLavBT0UA5+maV5xiEJZA@mail.gmail.com>
Hi,
Jon Seymour wrote:
> What is so hard about:
>
> app install plugin.
>
> Forget git. Forget git work.
>
> What is so hard about the concept of
[...]
Is it so important that the people on this list agree with you
right away that your proposal is a great idea?
You asked for comments, so people are giving them. But typically,
the procedure might be something like:
1. person describes a problem they are solving, and perhaps a
proposed solution
2. people on the mailing list try to help out in figuring out the
parameters of the problem, giving relevant background about the
tools available, and describing experiences they have had in the
past that might help in solving it.
3. person reports on how it panned out. If this involved changing
git or is nicely documented, we might get a patch out of it. If
so:
4. people on the mailing list review the patch, considering how
useful it might be for their own nefarious ends, potential
downsides, and how maintainable it is.
5. at some point, some patches appear that seem to be a good idea,
and Junio applies them.
And so forth. Notice how at no step everyone needs to agree.
Earlier in this thread you mentioned that git needs some basic
facilities to make a prototype of a command installer possible.
But git already has those facilities. Even if the installed commands
should not be on the path, all you need to get a "git install"
available on early adopters' machines is to put an executable at
/usr/bin/git-install or ~/bin/git-install.
So you can show people what they have missing, and once they can't
live without it, maybe they'll clamor for its inclusion in git.git
proper and distro packages. If that is your goal, getting something
working and helping interested people to try it out (and adding it
to https://git.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/InterfacesFrontendsAndTools
when ready) comes first.
Sorry to spend so long on abstractions. Still, hope that helps.
Regards,
Jonathan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-04-28 11:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 105+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-04-27 3:36 RFC: a plugin architecture for git extensions? Jon Seymour
2011-04-27 3:58 ` Jonathan Nieder
2011-04-27 5:06 ` Jon Seymour
2011-04-27 5:07 ` Junio C Hamano
2011-04-27 5:10 ` Jon Seymour
2011-04-27 5:17 ` Junio C Hamano
2011-04-27 5:33 ` Jon Seymour
2011-04-27 5:37 ` Jon Seymour
2011-04-27 5:39 ` Junio C Hamano
2011-04-27 5:42 ` Jon Seymour
2011-04-27 7:15 ` Jon Seymour
2011-04-27 7:57 ` Michael J Gruber
2011-04-27 8:15 ` Jon Seymour
2011-04-27 8:40 ` Jon Seymour
2011-04-27 9:36 ` Motiejus Jakštys
2011-04-27 9:59 ` Jon Seymour
2011-04-27 10:48 ` Motiejus Jakštys
2011-04-27 10:21 ` Carlos Martín Nieto
2011-04-27 10:44 ` Jon Seymour
2011-04-27 11:38 ` Fredrik Gustafsson
2011-04-27 11:57 ` Jon Seymour
2011-04-27 22:32 ` Pau Garcia i Quiles
2011-04-27 22:47 ` Jon Seymour
2011-04-27 11:01 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2011-04-27 11:42 ` Jon Seymour
2011-05-13 19:32 ` Enrico Weigelt
2011-04-27 12:08 ` Andreas Ericsson
2011-04-27 12:50 ` Jon Seymour
2011-04-27 13:07 ` Felipe Contreras
2011-04-27 13:59 ` Jon Seymour
2011-04-27 14:52 ` Andreas Ericsson
2011-04-27 15:36 ` Jon Seymour
2011-04-27 16:13 ` Jon Seymour
2011-04-27 17:07 ` A Large Angry SCM
2011-04-28 3:07 ` Jon Seymour
2011-04-28 3:26 ` Jon Seymour
2011-04-28 5:04 ` Jon Seymour
2011-04-28 6:15 ` Jon Seymour
2011-04-28 16:16 ` david
2011-04-29 3:35 ` Jon Seymour
2011-04-27 19:16 ` Motiejus Jakštys
2011-04-27 19:19 ` Motiejus Jakštys
2011-04-27 17:34 ` Junio C Hamano
2011-04-27 18:28 ` Junio C Hamano
2011-04-27 18:49 ` Drew Northup
2011-04-27 19:42 ` Joey Hess
2011-04-27 20:16 ` Drew Northup
2011-04-27 21:38 ` Junio C Hamano
2011-04-27 22:08 ` Jonathan Nieder
2011-04-27 22:32 ` Jon Seymour
2011-04-28 9:07 ` Andreas Ericsson
2011-04-27 23:27 ` Junio C Hamano
2011-04-27 23:42 ` Jonathan Nieder
2011-04-28 0:10 ` Junio C Hamano
2011-04-28 0:50 ` Jon Seymour
2011-04-28 0:54 ` Jon Seymour
2011-04-28 0:55 ` david
2011-04-28 2:08 ` Jon Seymour
2011-04-28 2:15 ` Jon Seymour
2011-04-28 2:49 ` Jon Seymour
2011-04-28 9:25 ` Andreas Ericsson
2011-04-28 10:56 ` Jon Seymour
2011-04-28 11:11 ` Jonathan Nieder [this message]
2011-04-28 11:20 ` Jon Seymour
2011-05-05 21:41 ` David Aguilar
2011-05-05 21:53 ` Junio C Hamano
2011-05-05 23:51 ` Jon Seymour
2011-05-06 4:47 ` Junio C Hamano
2011-05-06 6:20 ` Jon Seymour
2011-05-06 6:56 ` Jonathan Nieder
2011-05-06 7:03 ` Jonathan Nieder
2011-05-06 14:07 ` Jon Seymour
2011-05-06 14:17 ` Jonathan Nieder
2011-05-06 14:29 ` Jon Seymour
2011-05-06 14:50 ` Jonathan Nieder
2011-05-08 4:28 ` Jon Seymour
2011-05-08 6:49 ` Jonathan Nieder
2011-05-08 7:42 ` Jon Seymour
2011-05-06 17:23 ` Jeff King
2011-05-07 8:24 ` John Szakmeister
2011-05-08 4:44 ` Jon Seymour
2011-05-09 7:35 ` Jeff King
2011-05-09 7:49 ` Jon Seymour
2011-05-09 8:12 ` Jeff King
2011-05-09 8:45 ` Jon Seymour
2011-05-09 10:44 ` Jeff King
2011-05-09 11:07 ` Jon Seymour
2011-05-09 11:13 ` Jon Seymour
2011-05-09 11:24 ` Jeff King
2011-05-09 11:28 ` Jon Seymour
2011-05-09 12:21 ` Jeff King
2011-05-09 22:50 ` Jon Seymour
2011-05-08 13:13 ` Jon Seymour
2011-05-09 4:36 ` Miles Bader
2011-05-14 12:51 ` David Aguilar
2011-04-28 9:11 ` Andreas Ericsson
2011-04-28 10:38 ` Jon Seymour
2011-04-28 7:40 ` Pau Garcia i Quiles
2011-04-28 8:09 ` Jon Seymour
2011-04-28 9:11 ` Pau Garcia i Quiles
2011-04-28 9:42 ` Jon Seymour
2011-04-28 0:06 ` Jon Seymour
2011-04-28 0:08 ` Jon Seymour
2011-04-27 21:29 ` Motiejus Jakštys
2011-04-27 21:47 ` Jon Seymour
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