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From: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
To: Johannes Sixt <j6t@kdbg.org>
Cc: Michal Vyskocil <mvyskocil@suse.cz>, git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: RFC: reverse bisect
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 00:09:24 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110930040924.GA28724@sigill.intra.peff.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4E849C5B.7050201@kdbg.org>

On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 06:27:07PM +0200, Johannes Sixt wrote:

> > git bisect good/bad/skip/run
> 
> Last time this came up on the list I suggested to add the following
> commands:
> 
>    git bisect regression  # a synonym for git bisect start
>    git bisect improvement # your --reverse

That makes some sense to me. But I do wonder if you could simply get rid
of the connotations of "good" and "bad" entirely, by thinking of it as
simply looking for a commit that introduced some property. Like:

  # find a bug
  git bisect start
  git bisect yes ;# has the bug
  git bisect no ;# does not have the bug
  git bisect skip ;# no idea

  # find a feature being implemented
  git bisect start
  git bisect yes ;# has the feature
  git bisect no ;# does not have the feature
  git bisect skip ;# no idea

IOW, I feel like we are having to handle this weird negation only
because we have assigned a value judgement to the tests. That instead of
saying "yes, we have this bug", we say "bad", which only makes sense if
you are looking for a bad thing.

You can still produce a negation in your mind, of course, by asking
"when did this property go away".  But that is usually about a bug being
fixed, so the right answer is generally not a set of command line
options, but to stop asking "when did bug X go away", and instead ask
"when did the fix for bug X appear".

One catch is that the run command assumes a successful exit is "good",
and anything else is "bad". Which makes:

  git bisect run make test

good for finding regressions, but is a little counterintuitive for the
yes/no thing (a successful exit means "no").

-Peff

  reply	other threads:[~2011-09-30  4:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-09-29 14:20 RFC: reverse bisect Michal Vyskocil
2011-09-29 14:42 ` Sverre Rabbelier
2011-09-29 16:27 ` Johannes Sixt
2011-09-30  4:09   ` Jeff King [this message]
2011-09-30  5:31     ` Frans Klaver
2011-09-30  8:29   ` Michal Vyskocil
2011-09-30 11:42 ` [RFC/PATCH]: reverse bisect v 2.0 Michal Vyskocil
2011-09-30 18:13   ` Junio C Hamano
2011-10-03 10:41     ` Jeff King
2011-10-03 17:00       ` Junio C Hamano
2011-10-04 10:30         ` Jeff King
2011-10-04 15:22           ` Junio C Hamano
2011-10-04 22:34             ` Christian Couder
2011-10-04 23:27               ` Junio C Hamano
2011-10-07  1:57                 ` Andrew Ardill
2011-10-12  4:57                   ` Junio C Hamano
2011-10-12 20:14                     ` Jeff King

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