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From: Ted Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
	Shawn Pearce <spearce@spearce.org>,
	git@vger.kernel.org,
	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>,
	Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-ide@vger.kernel.org, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [git patches] libata updates, GPG signed (but see admin notes)
Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2011 10:59:08 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20111104145908.GA3903@thunk.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFyRawm9CoJMiEXDFCX4YTidPOiV4oqSS2d7nNv7Ecw8BQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Nov 03, 2011 at 12:09:55PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> I personally dislike it, and don't really think it's a wonderful thing
> at all. I really does have real downsides:
> 
>  - internal signatures really *are* a disaster for maintenance. You
> can never fix them if they need fixing (and "need fixing" may well be
> "you want to re-sign things after a repository format change")

Note that a repository format change will break a bunch of other
things as well, including references in commit descriptions ("This
fixes a regression introduced in commit 42DEADBEEF") So if SHA-1 is in
danger of failing in way that would threaten git's use of it (highly
unlikely), we'd probably be well advised to find a way to add a new
crypto checksum (i.e., SHA-256) in parallel, but keep the original
SHA-1 checksum for UI purposes.

>  - they are ugly as heck, and you really don't want to see them in
> 99.999% of all cases.

So we can make them be hidden from "git log" and "gik" by default.
That bit is a bit gross, I agree, but 3rd party verification really is
a good thing, which I'm hoping can be added in a relatively clean
fashion.

						- Ted

  reply	other threads:[~2011-11-04 14:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found] ` <1319969101.5215.20.camel@dabdike>
     [not found]   ` <CA+55aFx1NGWfNJAKDTvZfsHDDKiEtS4t4RydSgHurBeyGPyhXg@mail.gmail.com>
2011-10-31  8:40     ` [git patches] libata updates, GPG signed (but see admin notes) Ingo Molnar
2011-10-31  8:40     ` Ingo Molnar
2011-10-31 22:03       ` Junio C Hamano
     [not found]     ` <1320049150.8283.19.camel@dabdike>
     [not found]       ` <CA+55aFz3=cbciRfTYodNhdEetXYxTARGTfpP9GL9RZK222XmKQ@mail.gmail.com>
2011-10-31 18:23         ` Junio C Hamano
2011-10-31 20:30           ` Ted Ts'o
2011-10-31 20:53             ` Junio C Hamano
2011-10-31 22:18           ` Linus Torvalds
2011-10-31 22:20             ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-10-31 22:30               ` Linus Torvalds
2011-10-31 22:33                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-10-31 22:38                   ` Linus Torvalds
2011-10-31 22:51                     ` Junio C Hamano
2011-10-31 22:56                       ` Linus Torvalds
2011-11-02  9:11                         ` Ingo Molnar
2011-11-02 11:20                           ` Jochen Striepe
2011-10-31 23:09                       ` Junio C Hamano
2011-10-31 22:44                   ` Junio C Hamano
2011-10-31 22:47                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-10-31 22:49                     ` Ted Ts'o
2011-10-31 22:51                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-10-31 22:52                     ` Linus Torvalds
2011-10-31 22:54                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-10-31 23:03                         ` Linus Torvalds
2011-11-01  5:39                       ` James Bottomley
2011-10-31 23:55                     ` Jeff Garzik
2011-11-01  0:42                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-10-31 22:33               ` Jiri Kosina
2011-11-01 19:47             ` Junio C Hamano
2011-11-01 21:21               ` Linus Torvalds
2011-11-01 21:56                 ` Junio C Hamano
2011-11-02 20:04                   ` Linus Torvalds
2011-11-02 21:13                     ` Junio C Hamano
2011-11-03  1:02                     ` Shawn Pearce
2011-11-03  1:19                       ` Linus Torvalds
2011-11-03  1:45                         ` Linus Torvalds
2011-11-03  2:14                           ` Shawn Pearce
2011-11-03  2:25                             ` Linus Torvalds
2011-11-03  3:22                               ` Jochen Striepe
2011-11-03  4:13                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-11-10 13:51                                   ` David Woodhouse
2011-11-10 15:23                                     ` Marc Branchaud
2011-11-03  2:31                             ` Linus Torvalds
2011-11-03  2:19                           ` Linus Torvalds
2011-11-04 20:16                             ` Junio C Hamano
2011-11-04 21:22                               ` Junio C Hamano
2011-11-04 23:10                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-11-05  3:55                                   ` Jeff King
2011-11-05  4:37                                   ` Junio C Hamano
2011-11-03 18:16                           ` Junio C Hamano
2011-11-03 18:52                             ` Junio C Hamano
2011-11-03 19:09                               ` Linus Torvalds
2011-11-04 14:59                                 ` Ted Ts'o [this message]
2011-11-04 15:14                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2011-11-07  7:52                                     ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2011-11-07 16:24                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2011-11-05  6:36                                 ` Junio C Hamano
2011-11-05 16:41                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2011-11-05 23:49                                     ` Junio C Hamano
2011-11-06  0:53                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2011-11-09 17:26                                 ` Junio C Hamano
2011-11-10  8:02                                   ` Johan Herland
2011-11-10 15:15                                     ` Junio C Hamano
2011-11-10 16:03                                       ` Johan Herland
2011-11-10 17:18                                         ` Junio C Hamano
2011-11-11  1:17                                           ` Johan Herland
2011-11-11  5:26                                             ` Junio C Hamano
2011-11-10 21:41                                     ` Junio C Hamano
2011-11-03 19:06                             ` Linus Torvalds
2011-11-04 21:12                             ` Junio C Hamano
2011-11-04 23:45                               ` Linus Torvalds
2011-11-03  2:55                       ` Jeff King
2011-11-03  3:16                         ` Robin H. Johnson
2011-11-03 18:29                     ` Junio C Hamano
2011-11-01 22:39                 ` Ted Ts'o
2011-11-02 23:34                 ` Junio C Hamano
2011-11-02 23:41                   ` david
2011-11-02 23:42                   ` Linus Torvalds
2011-11-10 13:52                 ` David Woodhouse
2011-11-02 10:53               ` Michael J Gruber
2011-11-02 18:58                 ` Junio C Hamano
2011-11-02 21:05                   ` Michael J Gruber

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