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From: Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com>
To: Frans Klaver <fransklaver@gmail.com>
Cc: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>, Johannes Sixt <j6t@kdbg.org>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/5] run-command: Error out if interpreter not found
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 02:48:45 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120127084845.GC806@burratino> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAH6sp9NEnkDY-BCccW9VM3waxg8sG8zV5-rVAuMUfZ9rji4-Qw@mail.gmail.com>

(+cc: Jeff because mentioning a pagination side-issue [*])
Frans Klaver wrote:

>                                            If this was pretty much
> going to be /dev/null'ed from the beginning, I'd rather have heard it
> after my first patches.

Almost always when a developer has an itch, it is _possible_ to
massage a patch that scratches it into something acceptable to others.
And whether it is worth the trouble in terms of time is something that
only that developer can decide.

So no, I would not say these patches were not doomed from the
beginning.  However, I certainly agree that in their current form they
are more complicated than the use case justifies.

There is a tension between requirements that leaves me oddly
uncomfortable with the series:

a. on one hand, it would be nice to preserve all the current features
   of execvp(), which makes the approach of only doing post-mortem
   analysis after a failed execvp appealing;

b. on the other hand, it would be nice [*] to avoid launching a pager
   only in order to call execvp for a command that does not exist when
   the fallback might be to an alias to a command that does not want a
   pager.  That would require figuring out in advance that execvp
   would fail with ENOENT and missing out on possible system extensions
   that allow execvp to run shell built-in commands not existing on
   the filesystem.

I want to like (b), but the downside seems unacceptable.  I honestly
don't know if something like (a) would be a good idea if well
executed, so I was happy to have the opportunity to try to help
massage these patches into a form that would make the answer more
obvious.

  reply	other threads:[~2012-01-27  8:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-01-24 22:32 [PATCH 0/6 v3] Add execvp failure diagnostics Frans Klaver
2012-01-24 22:32 ` [PATCH 1/5] t0061: Fix incorrect indentation Frans Klaver
2012-01-24 22:39   ` Junio C Hamano
2012-01-24 22:40   ` Jonathan Nieder
2012-01-25  6:27     ` Frans Klaver
2012-01-25  7:00       ` Junio C Hamano
2012-01-25  7:08         ` Frans Klaver
2012-01-25  8:08       ` Frans Klaver
2012-01-24 22:32 ` [PATCH 2/5] t0061: Add tests Frans Klaver
2012-01-24 22:56   ` Jonathan Nieder
2012-01-25  6:47     ` Frans Klaver
2012-01-24 22:32 ` [PATCH 3/5] run-command: Elaborate execvp error checking Frans Klaver
2012-01-24 23:22   ` Jonathan Nieder
2012-01-25  7:09     ` Frans Klaver
2012-01-25 19:22       ` Jonathan Nieder
2012-01-25 22:48         ` Frans Klaver
2012-01-25 19:03   ` Johannes Sixt
2012-01-25 22:59     ` Frans Klaver
2012-01-24 22:32 ` [PATCH 4/5] run-command: Warn if PATH entry cannot be searched Frans Klaver
2012-01-24 22:32 ` [PATCH 5/5] run-command: Error out if interpreter not found Frans Klaver
2012-01-24 23:24   ` Jonathan Nieder
2012-01-25  7:12     ` Frans Klaver
2012-01-25 18:55       ` Johannes Sixt
2012-01-25 23:09         ` Frans Klaver
2012-01-26 19:32         ` Junio C Hamano
2012-01-27  8:29           ` Frans Klaver
2012-01-27  8:48             ` Jonathan Nieder [this message]
2012-01-27  9:11               ` Frans Klaver
2012-01-27  9:41                 ` Jonathan Nieder
2012-01-27 11:46                   ` Frans Klaver
2012-02-04 21:31                   ` Frans Klaver

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