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From: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
To: Tom Grennan <tmgrennan@gmail.com>
Cc: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, jasampler@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCHv2] tag: add --points-at list option
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 10:31:00 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120208153100.GA8773@sigill.intra.peff.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120208014515.GE6264@tgrennan-laptop>

On Tue, Feb 07, 2012 at 05:45:15PM -0800, Tom Grennan wrote:

> >     Also, it's not symmetric. What if I say "git tag
> >     --points-at=my-lw-v1.7.9"? Then I would get your signed and
> >     annotated tags (even though they're _not_ saying anything about
> >     ny-lw-v1.7.9), and I would get v1.7.9 (even though it's not saying
> >     anything about it either; in fact, it's the opposite!).
> 
> Huh?  As you noted, the lightweight tag is just an alternate reference,
> so why wouldn't want to see the annotated and signed tags of that common
> object?
> 
>   $ ./git-tag -l --points-at tomg-lw-v1.7.9 
>   tomg-annotate-v1.7.9
>   tomg-signed-v1.7.9
>   v1.7.9
>   $ ./git-tag -l --points-at v1.7.9 
>   tomg-annotate-v1.7.9
>   tomg-lw-v1.7.9
>   tomg-signed-v1.7.9

Sorry, I should have been more clear here (the word symmetric isn't
right; it _is_ symmetric). My understanding of the point of your
original feature was to mention things that talk about a tag (because
you wanted to know what signatures were made around it).

With tag objects this is easy, because they contain a pointer. But when
it comes to lightweight tags, you cannot tell in which direction the
"talking about" occurred[1]. That is, a lightweight tag of another tag
is just creating a new ref, which looks the same as the old ref. So
something like --points-at cannot say "X talks about Y", because it
might as well have been "Y talks about X".

So I think you are better off to mention both X and Y (or to mention
neither).

> >     Your documentation says "Only list annotated or signed tags of the
> >     given object", which implies to me that --points-at is an arbitrary
> >     object specifier, not a specific tagname.
> 
> Yes, I changed that in the patch that I've prepared but will revert this
> if you'd rather not list these lightweight tags.

I'm OK with not mentioning lightweight tags. I just feel it should be
all-or-nothing. It was specifically the "given object" that I took issue
with, since in your examples v1.7.9 was treated differently from its
sha1.

> My reaction when I tested this was, "don't tell me what I already know."
> But consistency with $(git rev-parse ...) seems more important.
> And as you noted, a sha1_array would save code and to me, less code is
> always better.

Thanks. Either I've convinced you, or I've made you so sick of the
discussion that you're agreeing. The system works. :)

-Peff

[1] Actually, a tag object embeds the name of the ref under which it was
originally created (so the refs/tags/v1.7.9 tag has a "tag v1.7.9"
header in it). So in some cases, you _can_ determine the "original" ref
of a lightweight tag versus other refs made about it later. I'm still
not sure --points-at is a good place to try to make that distinction,
though.

  reply	other threads:[~2012-02-08 15:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-02-05 22:28 [RFC/PATCH] tag: add --points-at list option Tom Grennan
2012-02-05 23:31 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-02-06  5:48   ` Tom Grennan
2012-02-06  6:25     ` Junio C Hamano
2012-02-06  6:45       ` Tom Grennan
2012-02-06  0:04 ` Jeff King
2012-02-06  6:32   ` Tom Grennan
2012-02-06  7:04     ` Jeff King
2012-02-06  7:13       ` Jeff King
2012-02-06  7:45         ` Jeff King
2012-02-06  8:11           ` Jeff King
2012-02-06  8:13             ` [PATCH 1/3] tag: fix output of "tag -n" when errors occur Jeff King
2012-02-06  8:13             ` [PATCH 2/3] tag: die when listing missing or corrupt objects Jeff King
2012-02-06  8:32               ` Junio C Hamano
2012-02-06  8:34                 ` Jeff King
2012-02-06  8:36                 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-02-06  8:38                   ` Jeff King
2012-02-06 18:04                     ` Junio C Hamano
2012-02-06 18:13                     ` Junio C Hamano
2012-02-06 20:12                       ` Jeff King
2012-02-06 23:34                         ` Junio C Hamano
2012-02-08 21:01                       ` Jeff King
2012-02-09  4:33                         ` Junio C Hamano
2012-02-06  8:14             ` [PATCH 3/3] tag: don't show non-tag contents with "-n" Jeff King
2012-02-07  7:01             ` [PATCHv2] tag: add --points-at list option Tom Grennan
2012-02-07  7:01             ` Tom Grennan
2012-02-07  8:35               ` Junio C Hamano
2012-02-07 18:05                 ` Tom Grennan
2012-02-07 16:05               ` Jeff King
2012-02-07 19:02                 ` Tom Grennan
2012-02-07 19:12                   ` Jeff King
2012-02-07 19:22                     ` Tom Grennan
2012-02-07 19:36                       ` Jeff King
2012-02-07 20:20                         ` Junio C Hamano
2012-02-07 21:30                           ` Jeff King
2012-02-07 22:08                             ` Tom Grennan
2012-02-08  0:25                               ` Jeff King
2012-02-08  1:45                                 ` Tom Grennan
2012-02-08 15:31                                   ` Jeff King [this message]
2012-02-08  6:21                                 ` [PATCHv3] " Tom Grennan
2012-02-08  6:21                                 ` Tom Grennan
2012-02-08 15:44                                   ` Jeff King
2012-02-08 18:43                                     ` Tom Grennan
2012-02-08 18:57                                       ` Jeff King
2012-02-08 20:12                                         ` [PATCHv4] " Tom Grennan
2012-02-08 20:12                                         ` Tom Grennan
2012-02-08 20:58                                           ` Jeff King
2012-02-08 22:15                                             ` Tom Grennan
2012-02-08 23:03                                             ` [PATCH-master] " Tom Grennan
2012-02-08 23:03                                             ` Tom Grennan
2012-02-09  1:44                                               ` Jeff King
2012-02-09  4:29                                                 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-02-08 18:58                                       ` [PATCHv3] " Tom Grennan

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