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From: Tom Grennan <tmgrennan@gmail.com>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, Jeff King <peff@peff.net>,
	Carlos Rica <jasampler@gmail.com>,
	Andy Parkins <andyparkins@gmail.com>,
	"Shawn O. Pearce" <spearce@spearce.org>,
	Amos Waterland <apw@rossby.metr.ou.edu>,
	Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH-w 101/105] t6300 (for-each-ref): modernize style
Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 21:10:10 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120301051010.GE2572@tgrennan-laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7vty29ovcd.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org>

On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 07:26:10PM -0800, Junio C Hamano wrote:
>Tom Grennan <tmgrennan@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> It's trivial to remove these "quiet" and "silent", but to me that's the
>> only value added by these patches.  More seriously, the remaining
>> modernization still seems much larger than its value.
>
>Don't do that, then ;-).
>
>Some older scripts do redirect the output from the commands to /dev/null
>but that dates back before we made the default reasonably silent, and in
>"modern" style we tend to keep them sent to their standard output to help
>debuggability. These quiet/silent takes us to the prehistoric times.

Hey! I am prehistoric:-)

Like I said, I think there is currently a debug distraction with verbose
mode.  However, rather than hiding expected failures and diverting other
output as I had, perhaps we should dup stderr to stdout in verbose mode
so error messages show up near the logged invocation when piped through
a pager (i.e. mimic "|&").  With this, one can quickly scan past the
noise to focus on the broken cases.

  exec 5>&1
  exec 6<&0
  if test "$verbose" = "t"
  then
- 	exec 4>&2 3>&1
+ 	exec 4>&1 3>&1
  else
  	exec 4>/dev/null 3>/dev/null
  fi

For example, try this w/ and w/o the above change.
	(cd t && ./t5512-ls-remote.sh) | less

I still think git-branch and git-tag should have a -q option; better
yet, the wrapper itself (i.e. git --quiet/--silent XXX).

-- 
TomG

  reply	other threads:[~2012-03-01  5:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-02-09 19:43 [RFC/PATCH] tag: make list exclude !<pattern> Tom Grennan
2012-02-09 19:43 ` Tom Grennan
2012-02-10  0:00   ` Tom Grennan
2012-02-10  6:34 ` Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
2012-02-10 18:55   ` Tom Grennan
2012-02-11  2:16     ` Tom Grennan
2012-02-11  3:06       ` Junio C Hamano
2012-02-11  7:50         ` Junio C Hamano
2012-02-11 10:13           ` Jakub Narebski
2012-02-11 14:06             ` Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
2012-02-11 18:31             ` Junio C Hamano
2012-02-11 19:47           ` Tom Grennan
2012-02-11  7:50         ` Michael Haggerty
2012-02-11  8:13           ` Junio C Hamano
2012-02-13  5:29             ` Michael Haggerty
2012-02-13  6:37               ` Junio C Hamano
2012-02-13  9:37                 ` Michael Haggerty
2012-02-13 10:23                   ` Junio C Hamano
2012-02-13 14:34                     ` Michael Haggerty
2012-02-13 20:29                       ` Junio C Hamano
2012-02-11 19:08         ` Tom Grennan
2012-02-22  1:28           ` [PATCHv3 0/5] " Tom Grennan
2012-02-22  1:28           ` [PATCHv3 1/5] refs: add match_pattern() Tom Grennan
2012-02-22  6:33             ` Junio C Hamano
2012-02-22 23:47               ` Tom Grennan
2012-02-23  0:17                 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-02-23  0:59                   ` Tom Grennan
2012-02-22  1:28           ` [PATCHv3 2/5] tag --points-at option wrapper Tom Grennan
2012-02-22  1:28           ` [PATCHv3 3/5] tag --exclude option Tom Grennan
2012-02-22  6:33             ` Junio C Hamano
2012-02-23  0:22               ` Tom Grennan
2012-02-23  1:00                 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-03-01  1:45                 ` [PATCH 0/5] modernize test style Tom Grennan
2012-03-03  2:15                   ` [PATCHv2 " Tom Grennan
2012-03-03  8:04                     ` Junio C Hamano
2012-03-03 17:42                       ` Tom Grennan
2012-03-03  2:15                   ` [PATCHv2 1/5] t7004 (tag): modernize style Tom Grennan
2012-03-03 21:31                     ` Johannes Sixt
2012-03-03  2:15                   ` [PATCHv2 2/5] t5512 (ls-remote): " Tom Grennan
2012-03-03  8:05                     ` Junio C Hamano
2012-03-03 17:33                       ` Tom Grennan
2012-03-03  2:15                   ` [PATCHv2 3/5] t3200 (branch): " Tom Grennan
2012-03-03  2:15                   ` [PATCHv2 4/5] t0040 (parse-options): " Tom Grennan
2012-03-03  2:15                   ` [PATCHv2 5/5] t6300 (for-each-ref): " Tom Grennan
2012-03-03  2:15                   ` [PATCHv2-w 101/105] t7004 (tag): " Tom Grennan
2012-03-03  2:15                   ` [PATCHv2-w 102/105] t5512 (ls-remote): " Tom Grennan
2012-03-03  2:15                   ` [PATCHv2-w 103/105] t3200 (branch): " Tom Grennan
2012-03-03  2:15                   ` [PATCHv2-w 104/105] t0040 (parse-options): " Tom Grennan
2012-03-03  2:15                   ` [PATCHv2-w 105/105] t6300 (for-each-ref): " Tom Grennan
2012-03-01  1:45                 ` [PATCH 1/5] " Tom Grennan
2012-03-01  6:53                   ` Johannes Sixt
2012-03-01 15:58                     ` Tom Grennan
2012-03-01  1:45                 ` [PATCH 2/5] t5512 (ls-remote): " Tom Grennan
2012-03-01  8:36                   ` Thomas Rast
2012-03-01  1:45                 ` [PATCH 3/5] t3200 (branch): " Tom Grennan
2012-03-01  1:45                 ` [PATCH 4/5] t0040 (parse-options): " Tom Grennan
2012-03-01  1:45                 ` [PATCH 5/5] t7004 (tag): " Tom Grennan
2012-03-01  1:45                 ` [PATCH-w 101/105] t6300 (for-each-ref): " Tom Grennan
2012-03-01  2:13                   ` Junio C Hamano
2012-03-01  3:20                     ` Tom Grennan
2012-03-01  3:26                       ` Junio C Hamano
2012-03-01  5:10                         ` Tom Grennan [this message]
2012-03-01  5:57                           ` Tom Grennan
2012-03-01  8:42                           ` Thomas Rast
2012-03-01 15:48                             ` Tom Grennan
2012-03-01  1:45                 ` [PATCH-w 102/105] t5512 (ls-remote): " Tom Grennan
2012-03-01  1:45                 ` [PATCH-w 103/105] t3200 (branch): " Tom Grennan
2012-03-01  1:45                 ` [PATCH-w 104/105] t0040 (parse-options): " Tom Grennan
2012-03-01  1:45                 ` [PATCH-w 105/105] t7004 (tag): " Tom Grennan
2012-02-22  1:28           ` [PATCHv3 4/5] branch --exclude option Tom Grennan
2012-02-22  1:28           ` [PATCHv3 5/5] for-each-ref " Tom Grennan
2012-02-11  2:16     ` [PATCHv2 1/4] refs: add common refname_match_patterns() Tom Grennan
2012-02-11  7:12       ` Michael Haggerty
2012-02-11 19:17         ` Tom Grennan
2012-02-13  5:00           ` Michael Haggerty
2012-02-13 17:27             ` Tom Grennan
2012-02-11  8:06       ` Junio C Hamano
2012-02-11 19:37         ` Tom Grennan
2012-02-11 23:43           ` Junio C Hamano
2012-02-13 16:29             ` Tom Grennan
2012-02-11  2:16     ` [PATCHv2 2/4] tag: use refs.c:refname_match_patterns() Tom Grennan
2012-02-11  2:16     ` [PATCHv2 3/4] branch: " Tom Grennan
2012-02-11  2:16     ` [PATCHv2 4/4] for-each-ref: " Tom Grennan

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