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From: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, Emeric Fermas <emeric.fermas@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] clone --local fixes
Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 07:03:05 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120530110305.GA13445@sigill.intra.peff.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7vhauy6fy3.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org>

On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 10:43:32AM -0700, Junio C Hamano wrote:

> Jeff King <peff@peff.net> writes:
> 
> > I think it depends on the definition of "--local". If it means "when we
> > are cloning without a URL, turn on the local optimizations", then yes,
> > "file://" should not work. If it means "turn on local optimizations if
> > this destination supports it", then it should.
> 
> It has meant the former since the day --local was introduced, and
> the semi-deprecation at 3d5c418 (git-clone: aggressively optimize
> local clone behaviour., 2007-08-01) didn't change it, either.

Right, but my argument was that since nobody probably ever cared about
the distinction, it is more important to do the least surprising thing.

> > The current behavior is ambiguous as to whether it is the first case, or
> > whether it is the second, and it was simply buggy. The history you gave
> > argues that the original intent was the former. But to me that is much
> > less important than what is useful and least surprising to users.
> 
> Changing it would make it even more confusing to people who started
> using Git before mid 2007, though.  That is why I am for deprecating
> (and eventually removing) "--local".

Yes, it would technically be a regression. But I highly doubt that
somebody is relying on the fact that "--local" with file:// is a silent
no-op. And other than that, the behavior remains the same (note that my
patch explicitly did not try to turn on --local when it sees file://).

Anyway, I do not really care about this part of the series. It was not
"this is a needed feature" but rather "this is less surprising and easy
to do, so why not?". We can drop it and replace it with a documentation
update.

I would still like to keep the --no-local patch, for two reasons:

  1. The fact that using file:// overrides the local optimizations is
     somewhat non-obvious if you do not already know that it is the
     case.

  2. File URLs require absolute paths[1]. You can't do the equivalent of
     "git clone --no-local foo.git" without resorting to $PWD.

So here's an updated series (I see you took the test cleanups already).

  [1/2]: docs/clone: mention that --local may be ignored
  [2/2]: clone: allow --no-local to turn off local optimizations

I didn't bother with deprecation or erroring out on URLs. So far we have
had exactly one report on this, and I think the improved documentation
would have solved this particular case.

-Peff

  reply	other threads:[~2012-05-30 11:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-05-26  3:42 [PATCH 0/3] clone --local fixes Jeff King
2012-05-26  3:42 ` [PATCH 1/3] t5701: modernize style Jeff King
2012-05-26  3:45 ` [PATCH 2/3] clone: make --local handle URLs Jeff King
2012-05-28 18:31   ` Johannes Sixt
2012-05-28 19:10     ` Jeff King
2012-05-26  3:45 ` [PATCH 3/3] clone: allow --no-local to turn off local optimizations Jeff King
2012-05-26  4:11 ` [PATCH 4/3] clone: send diagnostic messages to stderr Jeff King
2012-05-27  6:32 ` [PATCH 0/3] clone --local fixes Junio C Hamano
2012-05-28  5:36   ` Jeff King
2012-05-29 17:43     ` Junio C Hamano
2012-05-30 11:03       ` Jeff King [this message]
2012-05-30 11:08         ` Jeff King
2012-05-30 11:09         ` [PATCH 1/2] docs/clone: mention that --local may be ignored Jeff King
2012-05-30 11:10         ` [PATCH 2/2] clone: allow --no-local to turn off local optimizations Jeff King
2012-05-30 17:20           ` Junio C Hamano
2012-05-30 21:59             ` Jeff King
2012-05-30 22:10               ` Junio C Hamano
2012-05-30 23:21                 ` Jeff King
2012-05-30 23:33                   ` Junio C Hamano

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