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From: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
To: Ted Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>
Cc: Thomas Rast <trast@student.ethz.ch>,
	Hallvard B Furuseth <h.b.furuseth@usit.uio.no>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, Nicolas Pitre <nico@fluxnic.net>
Subject: Re: Keeping unreachable objects in a separate pack instead of loose?
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 18:35:46 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120611223546.GA10619@sigill.intra.peff.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120611222843.GF21775@thunk.org>

On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 06:28:43PM -0400, Ted Ts'o wrote:

> On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 06:23:08PM -0400, Jeff King wrote:
> > 
> > I'm more specifically worried about large objects which are no better in
> > packs than they are in loose form (e.g., video files). This strategy is
> > a regression, since we are not saving space by putting them in a pack,
> > but we are keeping them around much longer. It also makes it harder to
> > just run "git prune" to get rid of large objects (since prune will never
> > kill off a pack), or to manually delete files from the object database.
> > You have to run "git gc --prune=now" instead, so it can make a new pack
> > and throw away the old bits (or run "git repack -ad").
> 
> If we're really worried about this, we could set a threshold and only
> pack small objects in the cruft packs.

I think I'd be more inclined to just ignore it. It is only prolonging
the lifetime of the files by a finite amount (and we are discussing
dropping that finite amount anyway). And as a bonus, this strategy could
potentially allow an optimization that would make large files better in
this case: if we notice that a pack has _only_ unreachable objects, we
can simply mark it as ".cruft" without actually repacking it. Coupled
with the recent-ish code to stream large blobs directly to packs, that
means a large blob which becomes unreachable would not ever be
rewritten.

> > No! That's exactly what I was worried about with the name. It is _not_
> > safe to do so. It's only safe after you have done a full repack to
> > rescue any non-cruft objects.
> 
> Well, yes.  I was thinking it would be safe thing to do after a "git
> gc" didn't result in enough space savings.  This would require that a
> git repack always rescue objects from cruft packs even if the -a/-A
> options are not specified, but since we're doing a full reachability
> scan, that should slow down git gc much, right?

Doing "git gc" will always repack everything, IIRC. It is "git gc
--auto" which will make small incremental packs. I think we do a full
reachability analysis so we can prune there, but that is something I
think we should stop doing. It is typically orders of magnitude slower
than the incremental repack.

-Peff

  reply	other threads:[~2012-06-11 22:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-06-10 12:31 Keeping unreachable objects in a separate pack instead of loose? Theodore Ts'o
2012-06-10 23:24 ` Hallvard B Furuseth
2012-06-11 14:44   ` Thomas Rast
2012-06-11 15:31     ` Ted Ts'o
2012-06-11 16:08       ` Jeff King
2012-06-11 17:04         ` Nicolas Pitre
2012-06-11 17:45           ` Ted Ts'o
2012-06-11 17:54             ` Jeff King
2012-06-11 18:20               ` Ted Ts'o
2012-06-11 18:43                 ` Jeff King
2012-06-11 17:46           ` Jeff King
2012-06-11 17:27         ` Ted Ts'o
2012-06-11 18:34           ` Jeff King
2012-06-11 20:44             ` Hallvard Breien Furuseth
2012-06-11 21:14               ` Jeff King
2012-06-11 21:41                 ` Hallvard Breien Furuseth
2012-06-11 21:14             ` Ted Ts'o
2012-06-11 21:39               ` Jeff King
2012-06-11 22:14                 ` Ted Ts'o
2012-06-11 22:23                   ` Jeff King
2012-06-11 22:28                     ` Ted Ts'o
2012-06-11 22:35                       ` Jeff King [this message]
2012-06-12  0:41                     ` Nicolas Pitre
2012-06-12 17:10                       ` Jeff King
2012-06-12 17:30                         ` Nicolas Pitre
2012-06-12 17:32                           ` Jeff King
2012-06-12 17:45                             ` Shawn Pearce
2012-06-12 17:50                               ` Jeff King
2012-06-12 17:57                                 ` Nicolas Pitre
2012-06-12 18:43                                 ` Andreas Schwab
2012-06-12 19:07                                   ` Jeff King
2012-06-12 19:09                                   ` Nicolas Pitre
2012-06-12 19:23                                     ` Jeff King
2012-06-12 19:39                                       ` Nicolas Pitre
2012-06-12 19:41                                         ` Jeff King
2012-06-12 17:55                               ` Nicolas Pitre
2012-06-12 17:49                             ` Nicolas Pitre
2012-06-12 17:54                               ` Jeff King
2012-06-12 18:25                                 ` Nicolas Pitre
2012-06-12 18:37                                   ` Ted Ts'o
2012-06-12 19:15                                     ` Nicolas Pitre
2012-06-12 19:19                                       ` Ted Ts'o
2012-06-12 19:35                                         ` Nicolas Pitre
2012-06-12 19:43                                           ` Ted Ts'o
2012-06-12 19:15                                   ` Jeff King
2012-06-13 18:17                                     ` Martin Fick
2012-06-13 21:27                                       ` Johan Herland
2012-06-11 15:40 ` Junio C Hamano

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