From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "Eric S. Raymond" Subject: Re: The ciabot hook code in contrib/ is obsolete - delete it Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 19:39:35 -0400 Organization: Eric Conspiracy Secret Labs Message-ID: <20121002233934.GA21819@thyrsus.com> References: <20120928024045.E0D6F42F19@snark.thyrsus.com> <7vr4pg5vn4.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org> Reply-To: esr@thyrsus.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: git@vger.kernel.org To: Junio C Hamano X-From: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Wed Oct 03 01:40:38 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcvg-git-2@plane.gmane.org Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.132.180.67]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TJC4Z-0002N0-JS for gcvg-git-2@plane.gmane.org; Wed, 03 Oct 2012 01:40:19 +0200 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1756724Ab2JBXkG (ORCPT ); Tue, 2 Oct 2012 19:40:06 -0400 Received: from static-71-162-243-5.phlapa.fios.verizon.net ([71.162.243.5]:54321 "EHLO snark.thyrsus.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753702Ab2JBXkF (ORCPT ); Tue, 2 Oct 2012 19:40:05 -0400 Received: by snark.thyrsus.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 171C642F19; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 19:39:35 -0400 (EDT) Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <7vr4pg5vn4.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org> X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Archived-At: Junio C Hamano : > Seeing the above without a signed-off patch and then this on cia.vc > > We intend to have the CIA.VC Site running soon then bring the > service back at a later date! We currently do not have an ETA for > the Service but hope to have it functioning soon! > > I am not sure what the right course of action at this moment. Then leave things as they are and we'll await developments. Yes, Ilkotech is expressing a hope to revive CIA. For various reasons both technical and political I am near certain the effort will go nowhere. From #cia: [17:19] Talad Hi [17:19] Talad the CIA bot in our channel is gone [17:20] Talad how to restore it ? [17:20] shadowm /topic [17:20] shadowm (Old news at this point, really.) [17:21] Talad what is the problem? [17:21] AI0867 the server was deleted [17:21] AI0867 the version running on it was never checked into version control, nor was it backed up [17:22] AI0867 in short, CIA is *gone* [17:22] AI0867 for a replacement, see #irker or http://www.catb.org/~esr/irker/ [17:25] The_Tick BearPerson: do we know if there was a backup of the database holding all the configs? [17:26] BearPerson There might be one on a hard drive somewhere in my apartment, but it'd be at least 2 years old at this point [17:26] BearPerson haven't gotten around to digging up that box yet [17:26] The_Tick might be worth pulling the emails out and shooting everyone an email explaining the situation [17:27] The_Tick so they stop coming in here asking about it [17:30] Talad "the server was deleted" <- by the owner? [17:32] Talad maybe CIA was discussed/agreed with freenode staff [17:32] Talad and they have a copy of it? [17:32] The_Tick doubt it [17:33] Talad I guess they are careful about widespread bots like CIA [17:33] shadowm No, freenode had nothing to do with running CIA.vc. [17:34] shadowm And the server was deleted by the hosting company, while the current owners did not have a backup plan at all. [17:36] Talad I see [17:36] Talad ok, thanks On the other hand contrib/ciabot isn't taking up a lot of space in your tree, either, so there's little harm in leaving it in place. -- Eric S. Raymond