From: "Eric S. Raymond" <esr@thyrsus.com>
To: Michael Haggerty <mhagger@alum.mit.edu>
Cc: Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@gmail.com>, git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Python extension commands in git - request for policy change
Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2012 05:57:08 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121125105707.GA25212@thyrsus.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <50B1F684.5020805@alum.mit.edu>
Michael Haggerty <mhagger@alum.mit.edu>:
> There is, of course, the awkward issue of how/when to transition to
> Python 3.x, which is *not* backwards compatible with Python 2.x. I
> expect that when the time comes there will be volunteers (myself
> included) willing to help adapt Python scripts to the new version, but
> the problem shouldn't be minimized.
2to3 actually does a pretty good job. It doesn't reduce the
transition cost to zero, but I find it does reduce that cost to an
easily manageable level even on quite large codebases.
> It would be insane to rewrite performance-critical C code in any
> scripting language, but there is a huge penumbra of code that is not
> performance critical and that mutates rapidly.
Indeed. In the git architecture there is a pretty clear dividing line -
to a first approximation, plumbing should remain C but porcelain should
probably not. (Not that I am advocating forcing such a move - but it would
be good to allow it to happen.)
The 80-20 rule (80% of the execution time is spent in 20% of the code)
helps us here. The *other* 80% of the code can move to a scripting
language with no significant performance loss. To find out what needs
to stay in C, run a profiler!
--
<a href="http://www.catb.org/~esr/">Eric S. Raymond</a>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-11-25 10:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-11-25 2:44 Python extension commands in git - request for policy change Eric S. Raymond
2012-11-25 3:15 ` Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
2012-11-25 5:18 ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-11-25 8:56 ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-25 9:54 ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-11-25 11:48 ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-25 17:50 ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-11-25 21:22 ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-25 21:56 ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-11-26 13:11 ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-27 7:54 ` David Aguilar
2012-11-27 8:43 ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-27 9:17 ` Sitaram Chamarty
2012-11-27 10:51 ` David Aguilar
2012-11-27 22:01 ` Guillaume DE BURE
2012-11-27 15:33 ` Johannes Schindelin
2012-11-28 2:09 ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-25 17:21 ` Johannes Schindelin
2012-11-25 10:26 ` Pat Thoyts
2012-11-25 10:33 ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-11-25 15:51 ` Erik Faye-Lund
2012-11-25 8:53 ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-25 9:53 ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-11-25 11:19 ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-25 17:32 ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-11-25 21:43 ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-25 22:44 ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-11-26 11:05 ` Andreas Ericsson
2012-11-25 10:44 ` Michael Haggerty
2012-11-25 10:57 ` Eric S. Raymond [this message]
2012-11-25 11:51 ` David Lang
2012-11-25 12:01 ` Stefano Lattarini
2012-11-25 17:44 ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-11-25 11:25 ` Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
2012-12-11 5:44 ` Patrick Donnelly
2012-12-12 0:09 ` Sitaram Chamarty
2012-12-12 0:28 ` Patrick Donnelly
2012-12-12 0:53 ` Tomas Carnecky
2012-12-12 1:50 ` Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
2012-12-12 2:22 ` Tomas Carnecky
2012-12-12 2:26 ` Patrick Donnelly
2012-12-12 5:15 ` Joshua Jensen
2012-12-12 3:30 ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-12-12 5:11 ` Joshua Jensen
2012-12-12 12:23 ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-12-12 6:32 ` Jeff King
2012-12-12 7:03 ` Patrick Donnelly
2012-12-12 8:32 ` Jeff King
2012-12-12 12:26 ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-12-12 12:29 ` Jeff King
2012-12-12 17:49 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-12-12 22:21 ` Andrew Ardill
2012-12-12 22:43 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-12-12 7:11 ` Patrick Donnelly
2012-12-12 12:43 ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-12-19 2:30 ` Patrick Donnelly
2012-11-25 11:40 ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-25 17:36 ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-11-25 21:25 ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-25 22:11 ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-11-26 13:17 ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-27 14:35 ` Magnus Bäck
2012-11-27 18:35 ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-11-27 21:08 ` Sitaram Chamarty
2012-11-28 0:16 ` Felipe Contreras
2012-12-03 21:45 ` Philippe Vaucher
2012-12-04 14:19 ` Felipe Contreras
2012-12-04 14:40 ` Stephen Bash
2012-11-28 0:10 ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-28 0:51 ` Jeff King
2012-11-28 1:22 ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-28 1:39 ` Jeff King
2012-11-28 2:06 ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-28 15:39 ` Magnus Bäck
2012-11-28 5:08 ` Joshua Jensen
2012-11-25 8:57 ` Johannes Sixt
2012-11-25 10:25 ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-11-25 21:41 ` Krzysztof Mazur
2012-11-25 22:47 ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-11-26 5:10 ` Sitaram Chamarty
2012-11-26 8:32 ` Krzysztof Mazur
2012-12-04 15:51 ` Martin Langhoff
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