From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Jonathan Nieder Subject: Re: Google Summer of Code 2013 (GSoC13) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 23:25:12 -0800 Message-ID: <20130219072512.GI19757@elie.Belkin> References: <87ehgd1qq2.fsf@pctrast.inf.ethz.ch> <20130218174239.GB22832@sigill.intra.peff.net> <7vip5p9rtm.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Junio C Hamano , Matthieu Moy , Jeff King , Thomas Rast , git@vger.kernel.org, Shawn Pearce , Jakub Narebski , Christian Couder , Pat Thoyts , Paul Mackerras , Carlos =?utf-8?Q?Mart=C3=ADn?= Nieto , Thomas Gummerer , David Barr , Jens Lehmann , Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy To: Ramkumar Ramachandra X-From: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Tue Feb 19 08:25:45 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcvg-git-2@plane.gmane.org Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.132.180.67]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1U7haA-0006M5-PC for gcvg-git-2@plane.gmane.org; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 08:25:43 +0100 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1756827Ab3BSHZT (ORCPT ); Tue, 19 Feb 2013 02:25:19 -0500 Received: from mail-pb0-f45.google.com ([209.85.160.45]:52148 "EHLO mail-pb0-f45.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1756548Ab3BSHZS (ORCPT ); Tue, 19 Feb 2013 02:25:18 -0500 Received: by mail-pb0-f45.google.com with SMTP id ro8so2096925pbb.32 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 23:25:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to :user-agent; bh=tYVYbNMnWSvEI5CzpJfMZYdBIxFC9EHUl5f1rUOt1es=; b=YvaqHB9NNQS5YMFoldd0VoE+zGp8pfFi0zUG2+eL7AgwlZhMkwXNjXbwZhRitZMqSP ejshQEKtCtAF2XOwduHYr8eBsmnNaDKr/CChbhjN8bdwrFZXnhA6/LQoT4XWYyZxn2sU yAS+ql71NHlKJCAdurNCA9FH8rtI6TPgR5r13+UPbW1NEgpVDhQgQsLzo1Yodq/LVHcd EaMPfmGeuf7HSVfz5HzFtf1fUAtnaYnCmnNXfgn84LLWy/On4DRfeAgu8etpnYSW2c0h v+Dt6WVuUNMDRO5nbnwrK8KMYImVKnonUPiUYv4BL3cZuYwqwhsrX7Y2BtaL3o4xQ8wx TyIA== X-Received: by 10.66.85.161 with SMTP id i1mr42799559paz.67.1361258717764; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 23:25:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from elie.Belkin (c-107-3-135-164.hsd1.ca.comcast.net. [107.3.135.164]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g4sm14245892pax.4.2013.02.18.23.25.14 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 18 Feb 2013 23:25:16 -0800 (PST) Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21+51 (9e756d1adb76) (2011-07-01) Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Archived-At: Ramkumar Ramachandra wrote: > The short undiplomatic version of that is that our mentors suck (I'm > not pointing fingers, but that's what I infer from failing projects). Hold on a second. I'm not remembering such a grim outcome with 100% failure from prior summers of code as you're describing. Before I start beating myself up, I guess I'd like a little more information --- is there some specific project or statistic that you're thinking of that brings you to that conclusion? [...] > I propose that we have one thread for every proposal where we can all > discuss the implementation outline- this will serve as authoritative > source of information for students, and for picking mentors (the > people who contribute most to the discussion). Students should be > matched with mentors on an individual basis. How is that different from what happened in previous summers where students made proposals, received feedback, and were accepted and matched to mentors or rejected based on how the discussion went? Jonathan