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From: Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: "Matthieu Moy" <Matthieu.Moy@grenoble-inp.fr>,
	"Jeff King" <peff@peff.net>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, "Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy" <pclouds@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/4] add -u: only show pathless 'add -u' warning when changes exist outside cwd
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 12:06:24 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130319190624.GB3655@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7v620nl99g.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org>

Junio C Hamano wrote:
> Matthieu Moy <Matthieu.Moy@grenoble-inp.fr> writes:

>> No time to review the code now. I thought about implementing something
>> like that, but did not do it because I didn't want the change in the
>> code to be too big. At some point, we'll have to remove the warning and
>> it's easier with my version than with yours. But the "damage" to the
>> code do not seem too big, so that's probably OK and will actually reduce
>> the pain for some users.
>
> Getting these warnings is a *good* thing.
>
> You may happen to have no changed path outside the current directory
> with this particular invocation of "git add -u", or you may do, or
> you may not *even* remember if you touched the paths outside.
>
> Training your fingers to type "git add -u ." without having to even
> think, is primarily to help the last case.

The problem is that these warnings are triggering way too often.  It
is like the story of the boy who cried "wolf": instead of training
people to type "git add -u .", we are training them to ignore
warnings.

I personally often find myself in the following situation:

	$ cd repowithdeepsubdirs/third_party/git
	$ ... hack hack hack ...
	$ git add -u

The result is a pile of warning text that I cannot convince myself not
to ignore because I already *knew* that the only changes present were
under the cwd.  The old and new "git add -u" behaviors always have the
same effect in this case, so the warning is not relevant to me.  So I
find myself being trained to ignore the warning.

Presumably habitual Java hackers that do their work in a
com/long/package/name subdirectory of the toplevel would find this
even more annoying.

One important exception is that if "git add -u :/" is slow, users need
to learn to run "git add -u ." to speed the operation up.  But I think
that is intuitive already.  Running a full-tree diff which slows down
the code that decides whether to print a warning is a good way to
train people regarding how long to expect a plain "git add -u" to
take.

Hoping that clarifies,
Jonathan

  reply	other threads:[~2013-03-19 19:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-03-08 23:54 [PATCH 0/2] "git add -u/-A" from future Junio C Hamano
2013-03-08 23:54 ` [PATCH 1/2] require pathspec for "git add -u/-A" Junio C Hamano
2013-03-10 15:49   ` Matthieu Moy
2013-03-11  7:04     ` Junio C Hamano
2013-03-11  8:00       ` Matthieu Moy
2013-03-11  8:01         ` [PATCH 1/2] add: update pathless 'add [-u|-A]' warning to reflect change of plan Matthieu Moy
2013-03-11  8:01           ` [PATCH 2/2] add: add a newline at the end of pathless 'add [-u|-A]' warning Matthieu Moy
2013-03-11 16:06             ` Junio C Hamano
2013-04-02 14:43               ` Matthieu Moy
2013-04-02 16:31                 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-04-02 16:57                   ` Matthieu Moy
2013-03-12 11:28     ` [PATCH 1/2] require pathspec for "git add -u/-A" Jeff King
2013-03-12 13:58       ` Matthieu Moy
2013-03-13  4:08         ` Jeff King
2013-03-13  4:10           ` [PATCH 1/2] t2200: check that "add -u" limits itself to subdirectory Jeff King
2013-03-13  8:52             ` Matthieu Moy
2013-03-13 17:44             ` Junio C Hamano
2013-03-14  6:44               ` Jeff King
2013-03-13  4:10           ` [PATCH 2/2] add: respect add.updateroot config option Jeff King
2013-03-13  9:07             ` Matthieu Moy
2013-03-13  9:27               ` Jeff King
2013-03-13 15:51                 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-03-14 12:39                   ` Matthieu Moy
2013-03-19  3:44             ` [PATCH 0/4] make pathless 'add [-u|-A]' warning less noisy Jonathan Nieder
2013-03-19  3:45               ` [PATCH 1/4] add: make pathless 'add [-u|-A]' warning a file-global function Jonathan Nieder
2013-03-19  3:46               ` [PATCH 2/4] add: make warn_pathless_add() a no-op after first call Jonathan Nieder
2013-03-19  3:48               ` [PATCH 3/4] add -u: only show pathless 'add -u' warning when changes exist outside cwd Jonathan Nieder
2013-03-19  4:25                 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-03-19  5:28                   ` Jonathan Nieder
2013-03-19 14:57                     ` Junio C Hamano
2013-03-19  5:34                   ` Jonathan Nieder
2013-03-19  5:37                   ` Duy Nguyen
2013-03-19  5:44                     ` Jonathan Nieder
2013-03-19  6:21                 ` Matthieu Moy
2013-03-19 15:06                   ` Junio C Hamano
2013-03-19 19:06                     ` Jonathan Nieder [this message]
2013-03-19 19:47                       ` Junio C Hamano
2013-03-19 20:34                         ` Jonathan Nieder
2013-03-19  3:49               ` [PATCH 4/4] add -A: only show pathless 'add -A' " Jonathan Nieder
2013-03-19  4:25               ` [PATCH 0/4] make pathless 'add [-u|-A]' warning less noisy Jeff King
2013-03-08 23:54 ` [PATCH 2/2] git add: -u/-A now affects the entire working tree Junio C Hamano
2013-03-19 22:44 ` [PATCH v2 0/6] make pathless 'add [-u|-A]' warning less noisy Jonathan Nieder
2013-03-19 22:44   ` [PATCH 1/6] t2200: check that "add -u" limits itself to subdirectory Jonathan Nieder
2013-03-19 22:45   ` [PATCH 2/6] add: make pathless 'add [-u|-A]' warning a file-global function Jonathan Nieder
2013-03-19 22:45   ` [PATCH 3/6] add: make warn_pathless_add() a no-op after first call Jonathan Nieder
2013-03-19 22:50   ` [PATCH 4/6] add -u: only show pathless 'add -u' warning when changes exist outside cwd Jonathan Nieder
2013-03-20  5:06     ` Jeff King
2013-03-20 15:10     ` Junio C Hamano
2013-03-19 22:51   ` [PATCH 5/6] add -A: only show pathless 'add -A' " Jonathan Nieder
2013-03-20 15:30     ` Junio C Hamano
2013-03-19 22:53   ` [PATCH 6/6] git add: -u/-A now affects the entire working tree Jonathan Nieder

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