From: John Keeping <john@keeping.me.uk>
To: Jens Lehmann <Jens.Lehmann@web.de>
Cc: Ramkumar Ramachandra <artagnon@gmail.com>,
Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
Git List <git@vger.kernel.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC/PATCH 0/7] Rework git core for native submodules
Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2013 19:59:05 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130407185905.GK2222@serenity.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5161BC33.8060707@web.de>
On Sun, Apr 07, 2013 at 08:34:27PM +0200, Jens Lehmann wrote:
> The whole feature list is full of red herrings like this which
> have nothing to do with the advantages of a new object, but talk
> about UI issues which are easy to solve in both worlds.
With the clarifications Ram's provided in this thread, I think there are
also some important regressions in functionality in his proposal (at
least as it currently stands), particularly losing the .gitconfig
overrides.
The only proposed change that seems to me to be impossible with the
current .gitmodules approach is the "submodule in a non-initialized
submodule" feature, but I've never seen anyone ask for that and it seems
likely to open a whole can of worms where the behaviour is likely to
vary with $PWD. The current hierarchical approach provides sensible
encapsulation of repositories and is simple to understand: once you're
in a repository nothing above its root directory affects you.
It doesn't seem to me that "it's harder than I'd like to add a feature I
want" is a good reason to subject all users of submodules to a lot of
pain migrating to some new implementation that doesn't work the way
they're used to and which will mean they have to deal with complaints
when people using an older version of Git can't clone their repository
(and I doubt we want this mailing list to be flooded with such
complaints either).
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Thread overview: 140+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-04-04 18:30 [RFC/PATCH 0/7] Rework git core for native submodules Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-04-04 18:30 ` [PATCH 1/7] link.c, link.h: introduce fifth object type Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-04-04 18:30 ` [PATCH 2/7] sha1_file, link: write link objects to the database Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-04-05 7:11 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-04-05 7:59 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-04-04 18:30 ` [PATCH 3/7] teach ce_compare_gitlink() about OBJ_LINK Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-04-04 18:30 ` [PATCH 4/7] builtin/log: teach show " Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-04-04 18:30 ` [PATCH 5/7] edit-link: add new builtin Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-04-04 18:30 ` [PATCH 6/7] clone: introduce clone.submodulegitdir Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-04-05 7:07 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-04-04 18:30 ` [PATCH 7/7] sha1_file: write ref_name to link object Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-04-05 7:03 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-04-04 18:40 ` [RFC/PATCH 0/7] Rework git core for native submodules Linus Torvalds
2013-04-04 18:52 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-04-04 19:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-04-04 19:17 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-04-04 19:59 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-04-04 20:28 ` Jens Lehmann
2013-04-04 19:36 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-04-04 19:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-04-04 19:52 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-04-04 20:08 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-04-04 20:04 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-04-05 16:02 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-04-05 16:37 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-04-04 19:42 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-04-04 21:20 ` Jens Lehmann
2013-04-04 21:35 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-04-04 22:13 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-04-04 22:18 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-04-04 22:26 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-04-04 22:32 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-04-04 23:08 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-04-04 23:14 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-04-05 17:07 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-04-05 17:23 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-04-05 6:53 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-04-04 18:47 ` Jonathan Nieder
2013-04-04 18:58 ` Jonathan Nieder
2013-04-04 18:55 ` Jonathan Nieder
2013-04-08 10:10 ` Duy Nguyen
2013-04-08 10:26 ` [PATCH] t3700 (add): add failing test for add with submodules Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-04-08 11:04 ` Duy Nguyen
2013-04-08 15:07 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-04-08 21:30 ` Jeff King
2013-04-08 22:03 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-04-08 22:07 ` Jeff King
2013-04-09 9:19 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-04-09 9:21 ` [PATCH 0/2] Fix git " Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-04-09 9:21 ` [PATCH 1/2] t3700 (add): add two tests for testing " Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-04-09 9:21 ` [PATCH 2/2] add: refuse to add paths beyond repository boundaries Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-04-09 16:50 ` Jeff King
2013-04-09 17:09 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-04-09 17:34 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-04-09 17:41 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-04-09 17:54 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-04-09 18:17 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-04-09 18:50 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-04-09 19:09 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-04-09 20:31 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-04-10 13:25 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-04-10 16:25 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-04-09 17:41 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-04-09 17:56 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-04-09 18:48 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-04-10 13:38 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-04-09 18:32 ` Jakub Narębski
2013-04-09 18:51 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-04-09 18:58 ` Jakub Narębski
2013-04-09 19:10 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-04-09 16:27 ` [PATCH] t3700 (add): add failing test for add with submodules Jeff King
2013-04-09 11:43 ` Jakub Narębski
2013-04-09 11:54 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-04-09 13:49 ` Jakub Narębski
2013-04-06 20:10 ` [RFC/PATCH 0/7] Rework git core for native submodules Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-04-07 3:31 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-04-07 7:27 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-04-07 9:00 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-04-07 10:58 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-04-07 15:51 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-04-07 16:12 ` John Keeping
2013-04-07 16:42 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-04-07 17:02 ` John Keeping
2013-04-07 17:22 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-04-07 17:52 ` John Keeping
2013-04-07 18:07 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-04-07 18:21 ` John Keeping
2013-04-07 18:34 ` Jens Lehmann
2013-04-07 18:44 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-04-07 20:15 ` Jens Lehmann
2013-04-07 20:49 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-04-07 21:02 ` John Keeping
2013-04-07 21:11 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-04-07 20:57 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-04-07 21:23 ` Jonathan Nieder
2013-04-07 21:30 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-04-08 7:48 ` Jens Lehmann
2013-04-08 8:07 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-04-08 8:19 ` Jonathan Nieder
2013-04-08 9:08 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-04-08 10:29 ` Duy Nguyen
2013-04-08 11:06 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-04-08 11:29 ` Duy Nguyen
2013-04-08 11:53 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-04-08 15:06 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-04-08 16:08 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-04-08 18:10 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-04-08 19:03 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-04-08 19:48 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-04-08 19:54 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-04-08 20:30 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-04-08 21:03 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-04-10 7:23 ` Philip Oakley
2013-04-08 21:59 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-04-09 11:51 ` Jakub Narębski
2013-04-08 11:10 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-04-08 8:37 ` Jonathan Nieder
2013-04-08 9:14 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-04-08 14:46 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-04-08 17:12 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-04-17 10:37 ` Duy Nguyen
2013-04-17 11:06 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-04-17 11:27 ` Duy Nguyen
2013-04-17 11:56 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-04-17 12:06 ` Duy Nguyen
2013-04-17 12:14 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
[not found] ` <CALkWK0m9QmZaSDruY=+2F-Kkw+fd6E1TYC TBpVQHRJrzq2VjCQ@mail.gmail.com>
2013-04-17 23:17 ` Philip Oakley
2013-04-18 7:50 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-04-19 17:08 ` Jens Lehmann
2013-04-17 16:01 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-04-08 20:41 ` Jens Lehmann
2013-04-08 21:36 ` Jeff King
2013-04-07 18:59 ` John Keeping [this message]
2013-04-07 19:06 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-04-07 19:17 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-04-07 18:37 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-04-07 18:22 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-04-07 19:26 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
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2013-04-07 21:24 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
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2013-04-08 17:04 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
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