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From: Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: "Robin H. Johnson" <robbat2@gentoo.org>,
	Git Mailing List <git@vger.kernel.org>,
	Ramkumar Ramachandra <artagnon@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Documentation/CommunityGuidelines
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 12:01:02 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130610190102.GF12924@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7vzjuxj21b.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org>

Junio C Hamano wrote:

>     0. You do not take offense, no matter what.  If someone attacks
>     you irrationally, you do not respond.  This is a public mailing
>     list, and we are all rational people: the attacker has already
>     humiliated herself in public, and everyone can see that.
[...]
> I suspect it mostly has to do with the desire to make sure that
> bystanders do not get an impression that the one who speaks last
> gives the conclusion to the discussion, so stating "The attacker
> being the one who speaks last in the discussion does not mean the
> conclusion is his." explicitly might be one way to make it more
> practically useful by alleviating the urge to respond, instead of
> saying "no matter what".
>
> I dunno.

Actually my motivation is worse than that in at least one of the cases
I am assuming Ram is referring to.

I don't think most bystanders would misunderstand if I let a certain
person alone instead of responding and saying "You are being
unproductive.  Please stop."  But that certain person seems to
misunderstand, whether I say that or not.  So when I lose patience I
say so, knowing that it will spark a discussion with others, knowing
that that discussion needs to happen and that if the problem is not
addressed I will continue to lose motivation for regular work on-list.

Is that an instance of taking offense and letting emotion overtake
reason?  Is that against the rules?

Jonathan

  reply	other threads:[~2013-06-10 19:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-10 13:28 [PATCH] Documentation/CommunityGuidelines Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-06-10 13:50 ` Célestin Matte
2013-06-10 14:04   ` Matthieu Moy
2013-06-10 16:25     ` Robin H. Johnson
2013-06-10 17:42       ` Junio C Hamano
2013-06-10 19:01         ` Jonathan Nieder [this message]
2013-06-10 19:45           ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-06-10 20:41             ` A Large Angry SCM
2013-06-10 20:56               ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-06-10 21:09                 ` A Large Angry SCM
2013-06-11  5:16         ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-11  8:56         ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-06-11  4:41 ` Michael Haggerty
2013-06-11  6:28   ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-11 10:45   ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-06-11 11:49     ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-11 12:33     ` Thomas Rast
2013-06-11 13:40       ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-06-11 14:40         ` Michael Haggerty
2013-06-11 15:34           ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-11 18:16           ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-06-11 18:43             ` Michael Haggerty
2013-06-11 18:55               ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-06-11 19:06                 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-06-11 19:39                   ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-11 23:48               ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-11 19:55           ` Brandon Casey
2013-06-12 11:56         ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-06-12 12:29           ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-06-12 13:58           ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-11 15:06       ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-11 15:41         ` Thomas Rast
2013-06-11 15:52           ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-11 16:10   ` Thomas Rast
2013-06-11 16:17     ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-11 17:00   ` Junio C Hamano
2013-06-11 18:24     ` Michael Haggerty
2013-06-11 18:29     ` John Keeping
2013-06-11 18:46       ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-06-11 19:54         ` John Keeping
2013-06-12 11:26           ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-06-12 13:14             ` John Keeping
2013-06-11 18:52       ` Michael Haggerty
2013-06-11 19:19         ` John Keeping
2013-06-11 19:46         ` Philip Oakley
2013-06-12  0:08           ` John Szakmeister
2013-06-12 14:49           ` Jakub Narebski
2013-06-12 20:54             ` Philip Oakley
2013-06-11 19:35       ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-11 20:33     ` Jeff King
2013-06-11 20:55       ` Junio C Hamano
2013-06-11 23:19         ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-12 12:27           ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-06-12 14:06             ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-12 12:03       ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-06-12 20:02   ` Junio C Hamano
2013-06-13  3:45     ` Michael Haggerty
2013-06-13  4:22       ` Junio C Hamano
2013-06-11  5:38 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-11 11:11   ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-06-13 10:19 ` Thomas Adam
2013-06-13 13:36   ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-14  9:48   ` Christian Couder

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