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From: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: Paul Gortmaker <paul.gortmaker@windriver.com>,
	<git@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: Should "git apply --check" imply verbose?
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 15:54:33 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130820155433.217abb3e@gandalf.local.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7v7gfgkuyo.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org>

On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 12:45:03 -0700
Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com> wrote:

> Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org> writes:
> 
> >> I do not think it is necessarily a good idea to assume that people
> >> who are learning "git apply" know how GNU patch works.
> >
> > Linus told me that "git apply" was basically a replacement for patch.
> > Why would you think it would not be a good idea to assume that people
> > would not be familiar with how GNU patch works?
> 
> The audience of Git these days are far more widely spread than the
> kernel circle.  I am not opposed to _helping_ those who happen to
> know "patch", but I was against a description that assumes readers
> know it, i.e. making it a requirement to know "patch" to understand
> "apply".

Patch is used by much more than just the kernel folks ;-)  I've been
using patch much longer than I've been doing kernel development.


> 
> >> But I do agree that the description of -v, --verbose has a lot of
> >> room for improvement.
> >> 
> >> 	Report progress to stderr. By default, only a message about the
> >> 	current patch being applied will be printed. This option will cause
> >> 	additional information to be reported.
> >> 
> >> It is totally unclear what "additional information" is reported at
> >> all.
> 
> In other words, your enhancement to the documentation could go like:
> 
> 	... By default, ... With this option, you will additionally
> 	see such and such and such in the output (this is similar to
> 	what "patch --dry-run" would give you).  See the EXAMPLES
> 	section to get a feel of how it looks like.
> 
> and I would not be opposed, as long as "such and such and such" are
> written in such a way that the reader does not have to have a prior
> experience with GNU patch in order to understand it.
> 
> Clear?

Looks good to me. Paul, what do you think?

Thanks,

-- Steve

  reply	other threads:[~2013-08-20 19:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-08-20 15:11 Should "git apply --check" imply verbose? Paul Gortmaker
2013-08-20 17:57 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-08-20 18:45   ` Paul Gortmaker
2013-08-20 18:51     ` Jonathan Nieder
2013-08-20 18:59       ` Paul Gortmaker
2013-08-20 19:07     ` Junio C Hamano
2013-08-20 19:15       ` Steven Rostedt
2013-08-20 19:45         ` Junio C Hamano
2013-08-20 19:54           ` Steven Rostedt [this message]
2013-08-20 20:19             ` Paul Gortmaker
2013-08-20 21:44               ` Junio C Hamano
2013-08-20 21:43             ` Junio C Hamano
2013-08-20 22:37               ` Steven Rostedt

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