From: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
To: Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@gmail.com>
Cc: "Junio C Hamano" <gitster@pobox.com>,
"John Keeping" <john@keeping.me.uk>,
"Jonathan Nieder" <jrnieder@gmail.com>,
"SZEDER Gábor" <szeder@ira.uka.de>,
git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] Re: [PATCH 3/4] t: rev-parse-parents: avoid yoda conditions
Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2013 00:06:16 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130908040615.GA14019@sigill.intra.peff.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMP44s3O=cHAtHOj41MccBDOausukb49MV-E6jib6n6czs+p3Q@mail.gmail.com>
On Sat, Sep 07, 2013 at 10:11:49PM -0500, Felipe Contreras wrote:
> > Though I prefer the current, I can certainly live and adapt to a changed
> > standard, and I do not mind doing so if there is a good reason. But I've
> > yet to see any argument beyond "it is not what I like". Which to me
> > argues for the status quo as the path of least resistance.
>
> Didn't Junio already provided reasoning?
If the reasoning is "cmp(actual, expect) makes more sense to humans"
then I do not think it is universal. Otherwise why would so many
existing test frameworks do it the other way? And that is why I said it
seems more like an issue of personal preference than a universal truth.
Was there some objective argument made that I missed?
> Here's more; human semantics:
>
> Computer, compare A with B
> cmp(A, B)
>
> Why would I write?
>
> cmp(B, A)
>
> Could you even construct an English sentence that starts with B, and then A?
"Computer, given that we expect B, how does A differ?". Or "Computer, we
expect B; does A match it?"
Or any number of variations. I'm sure you will say "but those seem
awkward and unlike how I think about it". But that was my point; it
seems to be a matter of preference.
-Peff
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-09-08 4:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-09-02 6:30 [PATCH 0/4] t: rev-parse-parents: cleanups Felipe Contreras
2013-09-02 6:30 ` [PATCH 1/4] t: rev-parse-parents: fix style Felipe Contreras
2013-09-02 6:30 ` [PATCH 2/4] t: rev-parse-parents: fix weird ! notation Felipe Contreras
2013-09-02 6:30 ` [PATCH 3/4] t: rev-parse-parents: avoid yoda conditions Felipe Contreras
2013-09-03 7:12 ` Jeff King
2013-09-03 7:51 ` SZEDER Gábor
2013-09-03 8:03 ` Jeff King
2013-09-03 10:45 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-03 11:10 ` SZEDER Gábor
2013-09-03 13:39 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-03 15:08 ` SZEDER Gábor
2013-09-03 17:04 ` [PATCH 0/4] " Jonathan Nieder
2013-09-03 17:05 ` [PATCH 1/4] rev-parse test: modernize quoting and whitespace Jonathan Nieder
2013-09-03 17:06 ` [PATCH 2/4] rev-parse test: use test_must_fail, not "if <command>; then false; fi" Jonathan Nieder
2013-09-03 21:56 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-03 17:07 ` [PATCH 3/4] rev-parse test: use test_cmp instead of "test" builtin Jonathan Nieder
2013-09-03 20:01 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-09-04 4:28 ` Jonathan Nieder
2013-09-03 22:01 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-03 17:11 ` [PATCH 4/4] rev-parse test: use standard test functions for setup Jonathan Nieder
2013-09-03 17:15 ` [PATCH v2 " Jonathan Nieder
2013-09-03 17:20 ` [PATCH 0/4] Re: [PATCH 3/4] t: rev-parse-parents: avoid yoda conditions Jeff King
2013-09-03 21:53 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-04 16:47 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-09-04 17:13 ` John Keeping
2013-09-04 17:38 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-09-04 18:36 ` Jeff King
2013-09-04 19:14 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-09-08 3:11 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-08 4:06 ` Jeff King [this message]
2013-09-08 4:13 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-08 4:14 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-08 4:26 ` Jeff King
2013-09-08 4:52 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-08 5:02 ` Jeff King
2013-09-08 23:25 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-08 23:45 ` Jeff King
2013-09-09 0:45 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-08 18:33 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-09-08 23:18 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-08 8:11 ` Philip Oakley
2013-09-03 17:31 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-09-03 17:33 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-09-03 21:52 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-02 6:30 ` [PATCH 4/4] t: rev-parse-parents: simplify setup Felipe Contreras
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