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[Finnerty, James M Mr CTR USA USASOC-SOAR]

Hi. I'm going to attempt to import a git database into Razor which is
linux rcs based. Does the linux version of git use rcs ?

 Thanks Jim

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Re: rcs

[Keshav Kini]

"Finnerty, James M Mr CTR USA USASOC-SOAR"
<jim.finnerty.ctr@soar.army.mil> writes:
> Hi. I'm going to attempt to import a git database into Razor which is
> linux rcs based. Does the linux version of git use rcs ?

If you're talking about the GNU rcs program, no, it does not.

-Keshav

Re: rcs

[Jeff King]

On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 11:35:21AM -0500, Finnerty, James M Mr CTR USA USASOC-SOAR wrote:

> Hi. I'm going to attempt to import a git database into Razor which is
> linux rcs based. Does the linux version of git use rcs ?

No, the formats are completely different, and you will have to
translate.  We don't usually get requests to go from git to rcs; it
usually goes the other way. :)

I don't know offhand of a tool that does it out of the box.  It should
be possible to generate the RCS files directly from the "git log" data
(though RCS does not use unified diff for storage, but rather "ed"
commands, so you'd have to translate there). A slower simpler way would
be to just "replay" the git history, committing to rcs at each step.
That might look something like the hacky, largely untested script below:

-- >8 --
#!/bin/sh

# note that this does not handle filenames which need quoting.
changed_files() {
  git diff-tree -r --name-only "$1" | tail -n +2
}

# Look at each commit in chronological order; note
# that this will linearize your history, as this
# script does not know about branches at all.
git rev-list --reverse HEAD |
while read rev; do

  # take a lock on each file we are about to update
  rcs -l $(changed_files $rev)

  # update the working tree to this revision
  git checkout -fq $rev

  # get commit date in iso8601
  date=$(git log -1 --format=%ai)

  # get author "login". This just pulls the username from
  # the email address; you may also want to map email
  # addresses to logins via a file.
  login=$(git log -1 --format=%ae | cut -d@ -f1)

  # original commit message
  msg=$(git log -1 --format=%B)

  # now we're ready to checkin
  ci -w"$login" -d"$date" -m"$msg" $(changed_files $rev) </dev/null
done
-- 8< --

There are lots of ways it can go wrong (and I tried to note them above),
but it may be enough for a simple history.

-Peff

RE: rcs

[Finnerty, James M Mr CTR USA USASOC-SOAR]

Jeff,

  Thanks.  We have several systems using Razor right now. So we are trying to get all the systems into one CM system. Razor is just a gui that uses rcs commands. Once we get everything synced we will explore our options for a complete development CM system.

 Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff King [mailto:peff@peff.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 1:16 PM
To: Finnerty, James M Mr CTR USA USASOC-SOAR
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org; Hawkins, Lisa M Mrs CTR USA USASOC-SOAR
Subject: Re: rcs

On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 11:35:21AM -0500, Finnerty, James M Mr CTR USA USASOC-SOAR wrote:

> Hi. I'm going to attempt to import a git database into Razor which is 
> linux rcs based. Does the linux version of git use rcs ?

No, the formats are completely different, and you will have to translate.  We don't usually get requests to go from git to rcs; it usually goes the other way. :)

I don't know offhand of a tool that does it out of the box.  It should be possible to generate the RCS files directly from the "git log" data (though RCS does not use unified diff for storage, but rather "ed"
commands, so you'd have to translate there). A slower simpler way would be to just "replay" the git history, committing to rcs at each step.
That might look something like the hacky, largely untested script below:

-- >8 --
#!/bin/sh

# note that this does not handle filenames which need quoting.
changed_files() {
  git diff-tree -r --name-only "$1" | tail -n +2 }

# Look at each commit in chronological order; note # that this will linearize your history, as this # script does not know about branches at all.
git rev-list --reverse HEAD |
while read rev; do

  # take a lock on each file we are about to update
  rcs -l $(changed_files $rev)

  # update the working tree to this revision
  git checkout -fq $rev

  # get commit date in iso8601
  date=$(git log -1 --format=%ai)

  # get author "login". This just pulls the username from
  # the email address; you may also want to map email
  # addresses to logins via a file.
  login=$(git log -1 --format=%ae | cut -d@ -f1)

  # original commit message
  msg=$(git log -1 --format=%B)

  # now we're ready to checkin
  ci -w"$login" -d"$date" -m"$msg" $(changed_files $rev) </dev/null done
-- 8< --

There are lots of ways it can go wrong (and I tried to note them above), but it may be enough for a simple history.

-Peff

Re: rcs

[Jakub Narębski]

Finnerty, James M Mr CTR USA USASOC-SOAR wrote
> Jeff King [mailto:peff@peff.net]wrote:
>> On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 11:35:21AM -0500, Finnerty, James M Mr CTR USA USASOC-SOAR wrote:
>>
>>> Hi. I'm going to attempt to import a git database into Razor which is
>>> linux rcs based. Does the linux version of git use rcs ?
>>
>> No, the formats are completely different, and you will have to translate.
 >> We don't usually get requests to go from git to rcs; it usually goes
 >> the other way. :)

 >
 >    Thanks.  We have several systems using Razor right now. So we are
 > trying to get all the systems into one CM system. Razor is just a gui
 > that uses rcs commands. Once we get everything synced we will explore
 > our options for a complete development CM system.

The problem with using RCS as sync (as base) is that it is least
powerfull of VCS, and as far as I know do not offer place to store
extra information, so conversion from Git to RSS will lose some
information (committership, signed commits and signed merges, signed
tags, etc.).

There is a tool to create fast-import stream from RCS repository,
but I am not sure if there is reverse (fast-import is a common
intermediate fairly VCS_agnostic representation used for fast
conversion between different version control systems).

-- 
Jakub Narębski

Re: rcs

[Junio C Hamano]

Jakub Narębski <jnareb@gmail.com> writes:

> Finnerty, James M Mr CTR USA USASOC-SOAR wrote
>> Jeff King [mailto:peff@peff.net]wrote:
>>> On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 11:35:21AM -0500, Finnerty, James M Mr CTR USA USASOC-SOAR wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi. I'm going to attempt to import a git database into Razor which is
>>>> linux rcs based. Does the linux version of git use rcs ?
>>>
>>> No, the formats are completely different, and you will have to translate.
>>> We don't usually get requests to go from git to rcs; it usually goes
>>> the other way. :)
>
>>
>>    Thanks.  We have several systems using Razor right now. So we are
>> trying to get all the systems into one CM system. Razor is just a gui
>> that uses rcs commands. Once we get everything synced we will explore
>> our options for a complete development CM system.
>
> The problem with using RCS as sync (as base) is that it is least
> powerfull of VCS, and as far as I know do not offer place to store
> extra information, so conversion from Git to RSS will lose some
> information (committership, signed commits and signed merges, signed
> tags, etc.).

You forgot to mention another important one: atomicity of commits
across the entire tree.  The best you could do would be to assume
that changes in such a collection of RCS ,v files from a Git export
to different files with the same timestamp and by the same author
are likely to have come from the same Git commit, and that the
timestamp monotonically increases, in order to stitch the history
back together.