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From: "Eric S. Raymond" <esr@thyrsus.com>
To: Martin Langhoff <martin.langhoff@gmail.com>
Cc: Git Mailing List <git@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: I have end-of-lifed cvsps
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2013 13:15:13 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131212181513.GA16960@thyrsus.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACPiFC+bopf32cgDcQcVpL5vW=3KxmSP8Oh1see4KduQ1BNcPw@mail.gmail.com>

Martin Langhoff <martin.langhoff@gmail.com>:
> On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 11:26 PM, Eric S. Raymond <esr@thyrsus.com> wrote:
> > You'll have to remind me what you mean by "incremental" here. Possibly
> > it's something cvs-fast-export could support.
> 
> User can
> 
>  - run a cvs to git import at time T, resulting in repo G
>  - make commits to cvs repo
>  - run cvs to git import at time T1, pointed to G, and the import tool
> will only add the new commits found in cvs between T and T1.

No, cvs-fast-export doesn't do that. However, it is fast enough that
you can probably just rebuild the whole repo each time you want to
move content. 

When I did the conversion of groff recently I was getting rates of
about 150 commits a second - and it will be faster now, because I
found an expensive operation in the output stage I could optimize
out.

Now that you have reminded me of this, I remember implementing a -i
option for cvsps-3.0 that could be combined with a time restriction 
to output incremental dumps. It's likely I could do the same
thing for cvs-fast-import.

> The above examples assume that the CVS repos have used "flying fish"
> approach in the "interesting" (i.e.: recent) parts of their history.
> 
> [ Simplifying a bit for non-CVS-geeks -- flying fish is using CVS HEAD
> for your development, plus 'feature branches' that get landed, plus
> long-lived 'stable release' branches. Most CVS projects in modern
> times use flying fish, which is a lot like what the git project uses
> in its own repo, but tuned to CVS's strengths (interesting commits
> linearized in CVS HEAD).
> 
> Other approaches ('dovetail') tend to end up with unworkable messes
> given CVS's weaknesses. ]

That terminology -- "flying fish" and "dovetail" -- is interesting, and
I have not heard it before.  It might be woth putting in the Jargon File.
Can you point me at examples of live usage?
-- 
		<a href="http://www.catb.org/~esr/">Eric S. Raymond</a>

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-12-12 18:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-12-12  0:17 I have end-of-lifed cvsps Eric S. Raymond
2013-12-12  3:38 ` Martin Langhoff
2013-12-12  4:26   ` Eric S. Raymond
2013-12-12 13:42     ` Martin Langhoff
2013-12-12 17:17       ` Andreas Krey
2013-12-12 17:26         ` Martin Langhoff
2013-12-12 18:35           ` Eric S. Raymond
2013-12-12 18:29         ` Eric S. Raymond
2013-12-12 19:08           ` Martin Langhoff
2013-12-12 19:39             ` Eric S. Raymond
2013-12-12 19:48               ` Martin Langhoff
2013-12-12 20:58                 ` Eric S. Raymond
2013-12-12 22:51                   ` Martin Langhoff
2013-12-12 23:04                     ` Eric S. Raymond
2013-12-13  2:35                       ` Martin Langhoff
2013-12-13  3:38                         ` Eric S. Raymond
2013-12-12 18:15       ` Eric S. Raymond [this message]
2013-12-12 18:53         ` Martin Langhoff
2013-12-17 10:57       ` Jakub Narębski
2013-12-17 11:18         ` Johan Herland
2013-12-17 14:58           ` Eric S. Raymond
2013-12-17 17:52             ` Johan Herland
2013-12-17 18:47               ` Eric S. Raymond
2013-12-17 21:26                 ` Johan Herland
2013-12-17 22:41                   ` Eric S. Raymond
2013-12-18 23:44                 ` Michael Haggerty
2013-12-19  1:11                   ` Johan Herland
2013-12-19  9:31                     ` Michael Haggerty
2013-12-19 15:26                       ` Johan Herland
2013-12-19 16:18                         ` Michael Haggerty
2013-12-19  4:06                   ` Eric S. Raymond
2013-12-19  9:43                     ` Michael Haggerty
2013-12-17 14:07         ` Eric S. Raymond
2013-12-17 19:58           ` Jakub Narębski
2013-12-17 21:02             ` Eric S. Raymond
2013-12-18  0:02               ` Jakub Narębski
2013-12-18  0:21                 ` Eric S. Raymond
2013-12-18 15:39                   ` Jakub Narębski
2013-12-18 16:23                     ` incremental fast-import and marks (Re: I have end-of-lifed cvsps) Jonathan Nieder
2013-12-18 16:27                     ` I have end-of-lifed cvsps Eric S. Raymond
2013-12-18 16:53                       ` Martin Langhoff
2013-12-18 19:54                         ` John Keeping
2013-12-18 20:20                           ` Eric S. Raymond
2013-12-18 20:47                             ` Kent R. Spillner
2013-12-18 17:46                       ` Jeff King
2013-12-18 19:16                         ` Eric S. Raymond
2013-12-18  0:04               ` Andreas Schwab
2013-12-18  0:25                 ` Eric S. Raymond

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