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From: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Git Mailing List <git@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFD] use approxidate for "git commit --date=xyz"?
Date: Thu, 1 May 2014 18:06:39 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140501220639.GD14441@sigill.intra.peff.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xmqq1tweec1o.fsf@gitster.dls.corp.google.com>

On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 02:34:59PM -0700, Junio C Hamano wrote:

> Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> writes:
> 
> > I just got a comment saying that
> >
> >     git commit --amend --date=now
> >
> > doesn't work. I replied that you can use
> >
> >    --date="$(date)"
> 
> Offhand without double-checking the actual codepath I do not have
> objection against approxidate-careful.

This has come up a few times on the list, but nobody ever produced a
patch. To quote myself[1]:

> I think the original rationale was that it's OK for us to allow some
> sloppiness when _viewing_ commits, since you will generally notice the
> problem. But when making commits, it's better to be careful, since you
> may be setting the sha1 in stone.
> 
> These days we have two tools that could help:
> 
>   1. approxidate_careful will do a regular approxidate, but keep track
>   of whether we found anything even remotely useful. That doesn't mean
>   you can't still get unexpected results, but at least some truly
>   useless cases return errors.
> 
>   2. For commits with a different author and committer, we mention the
>   author name in the post-commit summary. We could do the same with a
>   timestamp that was given (i.e., mentioning it in a standard format)
>   to give the user another opportunity to double-check what we parsed.

I think it would make sense if we followed both of those points.

Should we also loosen $GIT_AUTHOR_DATE? I'd prefer not to, as that is
not typically fed by the users themselves, but rather by scripts, and
being robust there may be more valuable.

> But why does the workflow need --date=now in the first place?
> Wouldn't --reset-author do what you want better?  What is the
> situation where you want to say that this patch has been changed
> significantly enough from the original to label it with the current
> timestamp without taking the authorship?

In some of the instances on the list, the user simply didn't know that
--reset-author would do the trick. And I do think it's slightly
unintuitive.

However, the original rationale for "--date" was to back-date
commits[2], so even though there is an equivalent for "--date=now", it
might be nice to support "--date=2.days.ago".

-Peff

[1] http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.git/168596

[2] http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.git/134406

  reply	other threads:[~2014-05-01 22:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-04-30 21:09 [RFD] use approxidate for "git commit --date=xyz"? Linus Torvalds
2014-04-30 21:34 ` Junio C Hamano
2014-05-01 22:06   ` Jeff King [this message]
2014-05-02  1:03     ` [PATCH 0/4] approxidate for "git commit --date=foo" Jeff King
2014-05-02  1:06       ` [PATCH 1/4] commit: use split_ident_line to compare author/committer Jeff King
2014-05-02  1:07       ` [PATCH 2/4] pretty: make show_ident_date public Jeff King
2014-05-02  1:10       ` [PATCH 3/4] commit: print "Date" line when the user has set date Jeff King
2014-05-02  1:12       ` [PATCH 4/4] commit: accept more date formats for "--date" Jeff King
2014-05-07  7:22   ` [RFD] use approxidate for "git commit --date=xyz"? Peter Krefting

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