From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Jeff King Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Git v2.0.0 Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2014 02:36:07 -0400 Message-ID: <20140602063607.GA27445@sigill.intra.peff.net> References: <53866e8562b7a_12a7a052f87a@nysa.notmuch> <20140529185311.GB10865@sigill.intra.peff.net> <5388fb283edaf_bd8167d3002b@nysa.notmuch> <87k392e0mf.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Cc: Felipe Contreras , Junio C Hamano , git@vger.kernel.org, git-fc@googlegroups.com To: David Kastrup X-From: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Mon Jun 02 08:36:15 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcvg-git-2@plane.gmane.org Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.132.180.67]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WrLqw-0005CH-Nl for gcvg-git-2@plane.gmane.org; Mon, 02 Jun 2014 08:36:15 +0200 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752067AbaFBGgK (ORCPT ); Mon, 2 Jun 2014 02:36:10 -0400 Received: from cloud.peff.net ([50.56.180.127]:35719 "HELO peff.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S1751645AbaFBGgJ (ORCPT ); Mon, 2 Jun 2014 02:36:09 -0400 Received: (qmail 31585 invoked by uid 102); 2 Jun 2014 06:36:09 -0000 Received: from c-71-63-4-13.hsd1.va.comcast.net (HELO sigill.intra.peff.net) (71.63.4.13) (smtp-auth username relayok, mechanism cram-md5) by peff.net (qpsmtpd/0.84) with ESMTPA; Mon, 02 Jun 2014 01:36:09 -0500 Received: by sigill.intra.peff.net (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 02 Jun 2014 02:36:07 -0400 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87k392e0mf.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Archived-At: On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 11:52:24AM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: > Some mailing list filters and/or spam filters flag mails with too many > recipients so that they need to pass through moderation first. The > typical threads on this list are short and have few recipients while > longer threads, due to the list policy of adding every participants to > the Cc, will tend to have more recipients. AFAIK, vger does not do anything like this. They block HTML, messages lacking a message-id, messages over 100K, and certain taboo phrases: http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html#taboo And anyway, I do not think vger is responsible here. The messages were delivered through the list, and other archives have them. This looks like a gmane problem. According to gmane.org, their admins will look manually at messages flagged as spam, but I find it unlikely that they flagged several days worth of git traffic (and when they do, I think they cross-post them to a spam group in NNTP, and the messages do not seem to be marked as such). So I think this really is just a bug. > And frankly, if I were a list moderator and software asked me through > this sort of coincidence whether a mail should be delivered or not and a > glance at it shows nothing but insults, wild accusations, threats and so > on for the umpteenth time, I'd consider twice clicking "Accept". > Whether or not I ultimately did so, this would likely contribute to the > delay. I do not disagree, but please let's not rehash all of that again. -Peff