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From: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
To: Michael J Gruber <git@drmicha.warpmail.net>
Cc: Duy Nguyen <pclouds@gmail.com>,
	Patrick Schleizer <patrick-mailinglists@whonix.org>,
	Git Mailing List <git@vger.kernel.org>,
	whonix-devel@whonix.org, mikegerwitz@gnu.org
Subject: Re: How safe are signed git tags? Only as safe as SHA-1 or somehow safer?
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2014 10:51:08 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141124155108.GC25912@peff.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <54730546.7000200@drmicha.warpmail.net>

On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 11:15:34AM +0100, Michael J Gruber wrote:

> > I wonder if we can have an option to sign all blob content of the tree
> > associated to a commit, and the content of parent commit(s). It's more
> > expensive than signing just commit/tag content. But it's also safer
> > without completely ditching SHA-1.
> > 
> 
> This amounts to hashing the blob content with whatever hash you told
> your gpg to use (hopefully not sha1 ;) ) and signing that.

Right. You could also create a graph of SHA-256 (or whatever) object
hashes and sign that. I.e., create a parallel to git's trees using
SHA-256 and include a single:

  object-256 ....

line in the tag header. That still involves re-hashing all of the data,
but it would at least be possible to cache (i.e., a mapping of SHA-1 to
SHA-256 hashes). Of course one way to keep that caching layer up to date
would be to just calculate the SHA-256 along with the SHA-1 whenever we
create an object. And then you can sprinkle SHA-256 links in other
places, too, like commit objects.

And now you are halfway down the road to a combined SHA-1/SHA-256 git.
:)

The tricky thing is fitting the extra hash into the tree objects. And of
course the rules for actually generating and/or sending extra objects.

-Peff

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-11-24 15:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-16 15:31 How safe are signed git tags? Only as safe as SHA-1 or somehow safer? Patrick Schleizer
2014-11-17 21:26 ` Jeff King
2014-11-21 23:01   ` Patrick Schleizer
2014-11-21 23:32     ` Jason Pyeron
2014-11-22 19:48       ` Jeff King
2014-11-22 19:43     ` Jeff King
2014-11-25 12:59     ` Fedor Brunner
2014-11-24  1:23   ` Duy Nguyen
2014-11-24 10:15     ` Michael J Gruber
2014-11-24 11:44       ` Duy Nguyen
2014-11-25 10:41         ` Duy Nguyen
2014-11-24 15:51       ` Jeff King [this message]
2014-11-24 18:14   ` Nico Williams
2014-11-25  1:16     ` Duy Nguyen
2014-11-25  1:23       ` Jonathan Nieder
2014-11-25  1:52         ` Duy Nguyen
2014-11-25  3:40           ` Stefan Beller
2014-11-25  3:47           ` Jeff King
2014-11-25 10:55             ` Duy Nguyen
2014-11-25 17:23             ` Junio C Hamano
2014-11-25 11:07       ` brian m. carlson
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2014-11-24  0:52 bancfc

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