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From: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: Brodie Rao <brodie@sf.io>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, Bryan Turner <bturner@atlassian.com>,
	Stefan Saasen <ssaasen@atlassian.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] gc: support temporarily preserving garbage
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2014 04:30:29 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141205093029.GD32112@peff.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xmqq388vuw9e.fsf@gitster.dls.corp.google.com>

On Thu, Dec 04, 2014 at 10:04:29AM -0800, Junio C Hamano wrote:

> > If it is a problem (and again, I am just guessing), I'd imagine you
> > would need a similar setup to what you proposed for unlink(): before
> > renaming "packed-refs.lock" into "packed-refs", hard-link it into your
> > "trash" area. And you'd probably want to intercept rename() there, to
> > catch all places where we use this technique.
> 
> Also we need to take it into account that it is not an issue unique
> to Git that the server side may expire these .nfsXXXXX entries left
> by an NFS client ("silly rename") to keep files that have been
> removed or renamed away alive.  Aren't there a knob on the NFS
> server end to control how long these are kept unexpired to avoid
> stale filehandle errors, so that not just Git but all applications
> running on NFS client machines will not be hurt by it?
> 
> Working it around at the application program level for each and
> every application that runs on a machine that can NFS mount
> filesystems from elsewhere may be simply madness, no?

Thanks. That is the vague feeling I have about the series, but without
having actually _seen_ the problem or knowing to what extent it affects
git, I didn't want to say anything so definite (e.g., I am only guessing
that rename() is a problem, but from the original description, it sounds
quite plausible that it is).

If this can be fixed outside of git, I very much agree that is the best
path forward.

-Peff

      reply	other threads:[~2014-12-05  9:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-14  1:16 [PATCH] gc: support temporarily preserving garbage Brodie Rao
2014-11-14 23:01 ` Junio C Hamano
2014-11-15  1:49   ` Stefan Saasen
2014-11-17 21:34   ` Jeff King
2014-11-17 23:59     ` Stefan Saasen
2014-11-18  0:21       ` Jeff King
2014-12-03 21:21     ` Brodie Rao
2014-12-04  9:10       ` Jeff King
2014-12-04 18:04         ` Junio C Hamano
2014-12-05  9:30           ` Jeff King [this message]

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