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From: David Aguilar <davvid@gmail.com>
To: Barry Warsaw <barry@python.org>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, Jacob Keller <jacob.keller@gmail.com>,
	Philip Oakley <philipoakley@iee.org>,
	Hilco Wijbenga <hilco.wijbenga@gmail.com>,
	Stefan Beller <sbeller@google.com>,
	Graeme Geldenhuys <graemeg@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Git's inconsistent command line options
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2015 02:28:34 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150901092834.GA10706@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150831102558.1514e5f7@anarchist.wooz.org>

On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 10:25:58AM -0400, Barry Warsaw wrote:
> On Aug 31, 2015, at 05:10 PM, Duy Nguyen wrote:
> 
> >I'm probably shot down for this. But could we go with a clean plate
> >and create a new command prefix (something like git-next, git2, or
> >gt...)? We could then redesign the entire UI without worrying about
> >backward compatibility. At some point we can start to deprecate "git"
> >and encourage to use the new command prefix only. Of course somebody
> >has to go over all the commands and options to propose some consistent
> >UI, then more discussions and coding so it could likely follow the
> >path of pack v4..
> 
> `git` itself could also be a thin wrapper which consulted a configuration
> variable to see which version of the ui to expose.
> 
> "All problems in computer science can be solved by another level of
> indirection"

Except for poor performance, simplicity, and bad ideas.

The Git project does not break backwards compatibility.
Let's let Python3 serve as a good lesson on why not to do that! ;-p

While a script writer could write, "git -c core.cliversion=1 ...",
no one does that, no one wants to do that, and it just seems
like a bad idea that's best left unexplored.

The only idea in this thread that's user-friendly would be a new
Git that still supported the entirety of the existing,
perfectly-good CLI interface and *also* accepted some new
"consistent" user interface.

Otherwise, this entire thread seems like a big non-issue.
The existing CLI hasn't hurt adoption, and tossing a config
option at it only makes it worse.  The best config is no config.

There really are ony a few corner cases that would need to be
tweaked to support --named-subcommands style, and after that is
done, is Git really that much easier to use?

Maybe a little bit, but not enough that warrants breaking
existing scripts IMO.
---
David

  reply	other threads:[~2015-09-01  9:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-08-25  8:01 Git's inconsistent command line options Graeme Geldenhuys
2015-08-25 15:13 ` Junio C Hamano
2015-08-25 21:49   ` Jacob Keller
2015-08-25 22:06     ` Stefan Beller
2015-08-25 22:21       ` Jacob Keller
2015-08-25 23:43       ` Junio C Hamano
2015-08-26  1:30         ` Hilco Wijbenga
2015-08-26 17:56           ` Junio C Hamano
2015-08-26 18:10             ` Jacob Keller
2015-08-26 20:48               ` Junio C Hamano
2015-08-26 22:52               ` Philip Oakley
2015-08-26 23:02                 ` Jacob Keller
2015-08-26 23:03                   ` Jacob Keller
2015-08-26  4:09         ` Jacob Keller
2015-08-26  6:28           ` Andreas Schwab
2015-08-26  6:33             ` Jacob Keller
2015-08-31 10:10         ` Duy Nguyen
2015-08-31 14:25           ` Barry Warsaw
2015-09-01  9:28             ` David Aguilar [this message]
2015-09-01 14:19               ` Barry Warsaw
2015-09-01 16:42                 ` Junio C Hamano
2015-09-01 17:50                   ` Barry Warsaw
2015-09-01 17:56                     ` Stefan Beller
2015-09-09  9:42                       ` Michael J Gruber
2015-09-09  9:42               ` Michael J Gruber

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