From: Eric Wong <e@80x24.org>
To: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Cc: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
Pat Pannuto <pat.pannuto@gmail.com>,
Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>,
Johannes Sixt <j6t@kdbg.org>,
git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] Use 'env' to find perl instead of fixed path
Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2017 10:31:34 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170114103134.GA586@untitled> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170114075408.hyidkb4rzxzmm2je@sigill.intra.peff.net>
Jeff King <peff@peff.net> wrote:
> Just as a devil's advocate, why do we care about warnings in third-party
> modules? Or more specifically, why do _users_ who are running Git care
> about them? We cannot fix them in Git. A user may report the error to
> the module author, but the module author may not be responsive, or even
> may not be inclined to fix the problem (because they have a particular
> opinion on that warning).
Every user is a potential developer(*). And I do feel
we (git developers) should be at least somewhat responsible
for helping maintain and fix the projects we depend on;
or moving to alternatives if we can't fix them.
There is a chance a newly-introduced warning in a 3rd-party
module points to a real problem with the way git uses it, too.
Having that warning would help us fix or workaround the bug
(either in git or the module).
I doubt any module author would be unresponsive to having a
localized "no warnings" for special cases. AFAIK, "-w" is
widespread amongst Perl users (unlike Ruby in my experience).
(*) I feel that more strongly in the git case, and even more so
for the Perl bits since the source is already on the user's
machine.
> In the meantime, the user is stuck with an annoying warning message
> until Git is updated as you showed above. Why not just start there
> preemptively, and let module authors worry about their own warnings?
I'm not saying we blindly start using '-w' everywhere today.
But we may at least try it and see if it introduces new
warnings, first, and only enable '-w' when it it looks quiet
(and perhaps start working with module authors to fix warnings
if not).
As a user, I'd rather have some indication of where something
might be wrong, than no warning at all when something does go
wrong.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-01-14 10:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-01-12 5:51 [PATCH 0/2] Use env for all perl invocations Pat Pannuto
2017-01-12 5:51 ` [PATCH 1/2] Convert all 'perl -w' to 'perl' + 'use warnings;' Pat Pannuto
2017-01-12 5:51 ` [PATCH 2/2] Use 'env' to find perl instead of fixed path Pat Pannuto
2017-01-12 6:27 ` Johannes Sixt
2017-01-12 7:17 ` Pat Pannuto
2017-01-12 10:21 ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-01-12 20:40 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-01-12 21:01 ` Pat Pannuto
2017-01-12 21:49 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-01-13 2:48 ` Eric Wong
2017-01-13 15:27 ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-01-13 16:58 ` Eric Wong
2017-01-13 17:13 ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-01-13 18:27 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-01-13 18:52 ` Eric Wong
2017-01-13 20:01 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-01-13 21:39 ` Eric Wong
2017-01-14 7:54 ` Jeff King
2017-01-14 10:31 ` Eric Wong [this message]
2017-01-14 21:57 ` brian m. carlson
2017-01-13 15:21 ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-01-12 6:21 ` [PATCH 0/2] Use env for all perl invocations Junio C Hamano
2017-01-12 7:13 ` Pat Pannuto
2017-01-12 8:21 ` Junio C Hamano
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