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From: Brandon Williams <bmwill@google.com>
To: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Cc: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>,
	"Git Mailing List" <git@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Junio C Hamano" <gitster@pobox.com>,
	"Jeffrey Walton" <noloader@gmail.com>,
	"Michał Kiedrowicz" <michal.kiedrowicz@gmail.com>,
	"J Smith" <dark.panda@gmail.com>,
	"Victor Leschuk" <vleschuk@gmail.com>,
	"Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy" <pclouds@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 11/12] grep: change the internal PCRE code & header names to be PCRE1
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2017 09:51:27 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170411165127.GC36152@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170411125741.7b7hlmuucid37b3r@sigill.intra.peff.net>

On 04/11, Jeff King wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 01:02:56PM +0200, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote:
> 
> > >> Yes, this is a bug. I'll need to add a git_options along with
> > >> submodule_options and pass -c grep.patternType=....
> > >
> > > Maybe that's an indication we should have --pcre1-regexp and
> > > --pcre2-regexp, so we don't have to resort to config tweaking.
> > 
> > I'd rather not. To reply to both your
> > <20170411103018.dkq5gangx3vcxhp4@sigill.intra.peff.net> & this, one
> > thing I was trying to do in this series (and I don't think I went far
> > enough in "grep & rev-list doc: stop promising libpcre for
> > --perl-regexp") was to stop promising some specific version of PCRE.
> 
> We don't necessarily have to document them. This is just in the general
> rule of "if there's config, there should be command-line to override
> it". Because without that, you get this exact situation where you have
> to bolt on "-c" options to another part of the command line, which gets
> awkward.
> 
> I'm also not sure it would be strictly correct, if the sub-program runs
> other sub-programs. Providing "-c" affects all child processes, whereas
> command-line options are propagated manually. So imagine you have a
> process tree like:
> 
>   grep
>    \-grep
>       \-textconv
> 
> I.e., grep recurses to a submodule which then has to kick off a textconv
> filter for one of the files. If you use "-c" to pass options to the
> second grep, then those options will continue to have an effect inside
> the textconv filter. Which _probably_ doesn't run git commands that
> would care, but technically it could do anything.
> 
> > I.e. as far as the user is concerned they just want perl-y regexes,
> > but they most likely don't care about the 1% featureset of those
> > regexes where the various implementations of "perl-y regex" actually
> > differ, because those cases tend to be really obscure syntax.
> 
> Yeah, that's what led me to the "why are we even worrying about run-time
> switching" direction. I'd think a build-time switch would be enough for
> people to test, and it makes all of this type of complexity go away.

Yeah I agree with Jeff that we should probably avoid needing to pass a
config option down in addition to a command line switch to do perl
regex's.  I didn't take too hard of a look at how that would be done in
the grep code, but it might be slightly more involved than just changing
the enum name.

From [12/12] it looks like the main purpose of this series is to use a
more preferment version of PCRE, if all else is equal it doesn't really
make much sense to have both versions to be select-able at runtime.  Is
there any benefit of being able to do that, that I'm missing?

-- 
Brandon Williams

  reply	other threads:[~2017-04-11 16:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-04-08 13:24 [PATCH 00/12] PCREv2 & more Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2017-04-08 13:24 ` [PATCH 01/12] grep: add ability to disable threading with --threads=0 or grep.threads=0 Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2017-04-11 10:06   ` Jeff King
2017-04-11 20:20     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2017-04-11 20:34       ` Jeff King
2017-04-11 20:56         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2017-04-14 21:23           ` Jeff King
2017-04-16 22:25             ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2017-04-08 13:24 ` [PATCH 02/12] grep: remove redundant regflags assignment under PCRE Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2017-04-11 10:10   ` Jeff King
2017-04-08 13:24 ` [PATCH 03/12] Makefile & configure: reword outdated comment about PCRE Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2017-04-11 10:14   ` Jeff King
2017-04-15 12:10     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2017-04-08 13:24 ` [PATCH 04/12] grep: add a test for backreferences in PCRE patterns Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2017-04-08 13:24 ` [PATCH 05/12] log: add exhaustive tests for pattern style options & config Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2017-04-11 10:23   ` Jeff King
2017-04-11 10:32     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2017-04-11 10:51       ` Jeff King
2017-04-08 13:25 ` [PATCH 06/12] log: add -P as a synonym for --perl-regexp Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2017-04-10  2:39   ` Junio C Hamano
2017-04-11 10:26   ` Jeff King
2017-04-08 13:25 ` [PATCH 07/12] grep & rev-list doc: stop promising libpcre " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2017-04-08 13:25 ` [PATCH 08/12] grep: make grep.patternType=[pcre|pcre1] a synonym for "perl" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2017-04-11 10:30   ` Jeff King
2017-04-08 13:25 ` [PATCH 09/12] test-lib: rename the LIBPCRE prerequisite to PCRE Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2017-04-11 10:31   ` Jeff King
2017-04-08 13:25 ` [PATCH 10/12] grep: change the internal PCRE macro names to be PCRE1 Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2017-04-11 10:35   ` Jeff King
2017-04-11 10:51     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2017-04-11 10:53       ` Jeff King
2017-04-08 13:25 ` [PATCH 11/12] grep: change the internal PCRE code & header " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2017-04-11 10:37   ` Jeff King
2017-04-11 10:45     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2017-04-11 10:48       ` Jeff King
2017-04-11 11:02         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2017-04-11 12:57           ` Jeff King
2017-04-11 16:51             ` Brandon Williams [this message]
2017-04-11 18:31               ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2017-04-08 13:25 ` [PATCH 12/12] grep: add support for PCRE v2 Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2017-04-11 10:43   ` Jeff King
2017-04-11 10:47 ` [PATCH 00/12] PCREv2 & more Jeff King
2017-04-15  8:11   ` Junio C Hamano
2017-04-15  9:50     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason

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