* Re: [PATCH] credential doc: make multiple-helper behavior more prominent (Re: [PATCH] clone: handle empty config values in -c)
2017-05-02 0:21 ` [PATCH] credential doc: make multiple-helper behavior more prominent (Re: [PATCH] clone: handle empty config values in -c) Jonathan Nieder
@ 2017-05-02 0:26 ` Brandon Williams
2017-05-02 0:30 ` Jonathan Nieder
2017-05-02 3:07 ` Jeff King
2 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Brandon Williams @ 2017-05-02 0:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Jonathan Nieder; +Cc: git, Jeff King, Junio C Hamano, Jonathan Tan
On 05/01, Jonathan Nieder wrote:
> Subject: credential doc: make multiple-helper behavior more prominent
>
> Git's configuration system works by reading multiple configuration
> files in order, from general to specific:
>
> - first, the system configuration /etc/gitconfig
> - then the user's configuration (~/.gitconfig or ~/.config/git/config)
> - then the repository configuration (.git/config)
>
> For single-valued configuration items, the latest value wins. For
> multi-valued configuration items, values accumulate in that order.
>
> For example, this allows setting a credential helper globally in
> ~/.gitconfig that git will try to use in all repositories, regardless
> of whether they additionally provide another helper. This is usually
> a nice thing --- e.g. I can install helpers to use my OS keychain and
> to cache credentials for a short period of time globally.
>
> Sometimes people want to be able to override an inherited setting.
> For the credential.helper setting, this is done by setting the
> configuration item to empty before giving it a new value. This is
> already documented by the documentation is hard to find ---
> git-config(1) says to look at gitcredentials(7) and the config
> reference in gitcredentials(7) doesn't mention this issue.
>
> Move the documentation to the config reference to make it easier to
> find.
>
> Signed-off-by: Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com>
> ---
> Brandon Williams wrote:
>
> >> Noticed while trying to set credential.helper during a clone to use a
> >> specific helper without inheriting from ~/.gitconfig and
> >> /etc/gitconfig. That is, I ran
> >>
> >> git clone -c credential.helper= \
> >> -c credential.helper=myhelper \
> >> https://example.com/repo
> >>
> >> intending to produce the configuration
> >>
> >> [credential]
> >> helper =
> >> helper = myhelper
> >>
> >> Without this patch, the 'helper =' line is not included and the
> >> credential helper from /etc/gitconfig gets used.
> >>
> >> Signed-off-by: Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com>
> >> ---
> >> Thoughts?
> >
> > After reading this I'm still a little fuzzy on why the empty helper line
> > is needed to avoid using the credential helper from /etc/gitconfig.
>
> See "git help credentials":
>
> If there are multiple instances of the credential.helper configuration
> variable, each helper will be tried in turn, and may provide a
> username, password, or nothing. Once Git has acquired both a username
> and a password, no more helpers will be tried.
>
> If credential.helper is configured to the empty string, this resets the
> helper list to empty (so you may override a helper set by a
> lower-priority config file by configuring the empty-string helper,
> followed by whatever set of helpers you would like).
>
> That's a bit obscure, though --- I didn't find it when I looked in "git
> help config". How about this patch?
>
> Tested using 'make -C Documentation gitcredentials.7'.
>
> Documentation/gitcredentials.txt | 20 ++++++++++----------
> 1 file changed, 10 insertions(+), 10 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/Documentation/gitcredentials.txt b/Documentation/gitcredentials.txt
> index f3a75d1ce1..f970196bc1 100644
> --- a/Documentation/gitcredentials.txt
> +++ b/Documentation/gitcredentials.txt
> @@ -101,16 +101,6 @@ $ git help credential-foo
> $ git config --global credential.helper foo
> -------------------------------------------
>
> -If there are multiple instances of the `credential.helper` configuration
> -variable, each helper will be tried in turn, and may provide a username,
> -password, or nothing. Once Git has acquired both a username and a
> -password, no more helpers will be tried.
> -
> -If `credential.helper` is configured to the empty string, this resets
> -the helper list to empty (so you may override a helper set by a
> -lower-priority config file by configuring the empty-string helper,
> -followed by whatever set of helpers you would like).
> -
>
> CREDENTIAL CONTEXTS
> -------------------
> @@ -162,6 +152,16 @@ helper::
> shell (so, for example, setting this to `foo --option=bar` will execute
> `git credential-foo --option=bar` via the shell. See the manual of
> specific helpers for examples of their use.
> ++
> +If there are multiple instances of the `credential.helper` configuration
> +variable, each helper will be tried in turn, and may provide a username,
> +password, or nothing. Once Git has acquired both a username and a
> +password, no more helpers will be tried.
> ++
> +If `credential.helper` is configured to the empty string, this resets
> +the helper list to empty (so you may override a helper set by a
> +lower-priority config file by configuring the empty-string helper,
> +followed by whatever set of helpers you would like).
Thanks, this clears up the confusion.
>
> username::
>
> --
> 2.13.0.rc1.294.g07d810a77f
>
--
Brandon Williams
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* Re: [PATCH] credential doc: make multiple-helper behavior more prominent (Re: [PATCH] clone: handle empty config values in -c)
2017-05-02 0:21 ` [PATCH] credential doc: make multiple-helper behavior more prominent (Re: [PATCH] clone: handle empty config values in -c) Jonathan Nieder
2017-05-02 0:26 ` Brandon Williams
@ 2017-05-02 0:30 ` Jonathan Nieder
2017-05-02 3:11 ` Jeff King
2017-05-02 3:07 ` Jeff King
2 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Jonathan Nieder @ 2017-05-02 0:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Brandon Williams; +Cc: git, Jeff King, Junio C Hamano, Jonathan Tan
Starting out the reviews:
Jonathan Nieder wrote:
[...]
> configuration item to empty before giving it a new value. This is
> already documented by the documentation is hard to find ---
^^
s/by/but/
Sorry for the confusion.
[...]
> +++ b/Documentation/gitcredentials.txt
[...]
> @@ -162,6 +152,16 @@ helper::
> shell (so, for example, setting this to `foo --option=bar` will execute
> `git credential-foo --option=bar` via the shell. See the manual of
> specific helpers for examples of their use.
> ++
> +If there are multiple instances of the `credential.helper` configuration
> +variable, each helper will be tried in turn, and may provide a username,
> +password, or nothing. Once Git has acquired both a username and a
> +password, no more helpers will be tried.
> ++
> +If `credential.helper` is configured to the empty string, this resets
> +the helper list to empty (so you may override a helper set by a
> +lower-priority config file by configuring the empty-string helper,
It's not necessarily obvious to a new user what "lower-priority" means.
Since this text is an example, maybe it should say something like "so,
for example, you can override a helper set in /etc/gitconfig by
configuring the empty-string helper followed by whatever set of
helpers you would like in ~/.gitconfig".
That's orthogonal to this patch but it should be straightforward to
roll in if it makes sense.
Thanks,
Jonathan
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* Re: [PATCH] credential doc: make multiple-helper behavior more prominent (Re: [PATCH] clone: handle empty config values in -c)
2017-05-02 0:30 ` Jonathan Nieder
@ 2017-05-02 3:11 ` Jeff King
0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Jeff King @ 2017-05-02 3:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Jonathan Nieder; +Cc: Brandon Williams, git, Junio C Hamano, Jonathan Tan
On Mon, May 01, 2017 at 05:30:10PM -0700, Jonathan Nieder wrote:
> > @@ -162,6 +152,16 @@ helper::
> > shell (so, for example, setting this to `foo --option=bar` will execute
> > `git credential-foo --option=bar` via the shell. See the manual of
> > specific helpers for examples of their use.
> > ++
> > +If there are multiple instances of the `credential.helper` configuration
> > +variable, each helper will be tried in turn, and may provide a username,
> > +password, or nothing. Once Git has acquired both a username and a
> > +password, no more helpers will be tried.
> > ++
> > +If `credential.helper` is configured to the empty string, this resets
> > +the helper list to empty (so you may override a helper set by a
> > +lower-priority config file by configuring the empty-string helper,
>
> It's not necessarily obvious to a new user what "lower-priority" means.
>
> Since this text is an example, maybe it should say something like "so,
> for example, you can override a helper set in /etc/gitconfig by
> configuring the empty-string helper followed by whatever set of
> helpers you would like in ~/.gitconfig".
>
> That's orthogonal to this patch but it should be straightforward to
> roll in if it makes sense.
I'm not sure we want to get into explaining last-one-wins versus lists
versus list-resets for each option. The "FILES" section of git-config(1)
does cover this, though I could well believe it doesn't go into enough
detail or is too hard to find (my mind is sufficiently poisoned that it
all makes sense to me, but that says little about an average Git user).
The phrase "lower-priority config file" is used for push.gpgSign, too
(though there it really does seem like repeating things that are true
for all the config).
-Peff
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* Re: [PATCH] credential doc: make multiple-helper behavior more prominent (Re: [PATCH] clone: handle empty config values in -c)
2017-05-02 0:21 ` [PATCH] credential doc: make multiple-helper behavior more prominent (Re: [PATCH] clone: handle empty config values in -c) Jonathan Nieder
2017-05-02 0:26 ` Brandon Williams
2017-05-02 0:30 ` Jonathan Nieder
@ 2017-05-02 3:07 ` Jeff King
2 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Jeff King @ 2017-05-02 3:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Jonathan Nieder; +Cc: Brandon Williams, git, Junio C Hamano, Jonathan Tan
On Mon, May 01, 2017 at 05:21:14PM -0700, Jonathan Nieder wrote:
> Subject: credential doc: make multiple-helper behavior more prominent
>
> Git's configuration system works by reading multiple configuration
> files in order, from general to specific:
>
> - first, the system configuration /etc/gitconfig
> - then the user's configuration (~/.gitconfig or ~/.config/git/config)
> - then the repository configuration (.git/config)
>
> For single-valued configuration items, the latest value wins. For
> multi-valued configuration items, values accumulate in that order.
>
> For example, this allows setting a credential helper globally in
> ~/.gitconfig that git will try to use in all repositories, regardless
> of whether they additionally provide another helper. This is usually
> a nice thing --- e.g. I can install helpers to use my OS keychain and
> to cache credentials for a short period of time globally.
>
> Sometimes people want to be able to override an inherited setting.
> For the credential.helper setting, this is done by setting the
> configuration item to empty before giving it a new value. This is
> already documented by the documentation is hard to find ---
> git-config(1) says to look at gitcredentials(7) and the config
> reference in gitcredentials(7) doesn't mention this issue.
>
> Move the documentation to the config reference to make it easier to
> find.
I know I am the last person in the world to criticize somebody for being
too verbose in a commit message, but... :)
I think this background about how multi-values are handled isn't that
useful here, because we're not changing anything to do with that. We're
just moving the documentation around. So I think a more compelling
explanation would focus on the documentation locations. Like:
The behavior of multiple credential.helper config values is explained
in the rather-large "AVOIDING REPETITION" section of
gitcredentials(7), but not mentions at all in the "CONFIGURATION
OPTIONS" section. That's OK if the user is reading the manpage from
top to bottom, but users often don't do that. The entry for
credential.helper in git-config(1) points them to gitcredentials(7),
which would make it reasonable for them to skip straight to the
"CONFIGURATION OPTIONS" section.
With or without the suggested commit message, this looks like an
improvement to me.
> > After reading this I'm still a little fuzzy on why the empty helper line
> > is needed to avoid using the credential helper from /etc/gitconfig.
>
> See "git help credentials":
>
> If there are multiple instances of the credential.helper configuration
> variable, each helper will be tried in turn, and may provide a
> username, password, or nothing. Once Git has acquired both a username
> and a password, no more helpers will be tried.
>
> If credential.helper is configured to the empty string, this resets the
> helper list to empty (so you may override a helper set by a
> lower-priority config file by configuring the empty-string helper,
> followed by whatever set of helpers you would like).
>
> That's a bit obscure, though --- I didn't find it when I looked in "git
> help config". How about this patch?
So I think this looks fine, but I wonder if we should discuss multi-vars
some in Documentation/config.txt. It would be really nice if we could
claim "the usual behavior for multi-vars is to reset the list upon
seeing an empty entry". But probably we should make sure more of them
handle that before making such a claim. :)
-Peff
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